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Post by austinace on Mar 2, 2021 21:54:49 GMT -6
Year | Record | Conference | 2016-17 | 14-17 | 8-10 | 2017-18 | 3-27 | 0-18 | 2018-19 | 4-26 | 2-16 | 2019-20 | 3-26 | 0-18 | 2020-21 | 6-17 | 2-14 | Total | 30-111 | 12-76 |
Matt became the head coach in March of 2016; so I think this accurately shows his record at UE. His first year was by far his best year and half of his wins (over five years) came in his first year. It is hard for me to fathom how a coach with this type of record got an extension last year (from what was said in the UNI game thread). We seem to be a little better this year (record wise) but it is nowhere near acceptable. Why would you keep a coach and give him an extension with this type of record? To save money?
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Post by E-Villan on Mar 2, 2021 22:34:18 GMT -6
There is an old saying that a rising tide lifts all boats. Obviously, the men's program from a revenue standpoint is the tide. The issue after Ruffing's first year was buying out Simmons, and finding some more money to pump into the program. I would have thought at the end of the 2018-19 season, he would have been let go. McCarty was in place, unless, the powers that be could see the problems on the horizon.
I would love to know if there is an active coach at any division of either a men's or women's basketball team who is still employed with this pathetic of a record?
These girls deserve better.
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Post by municup14 on Mar 3, 2021 11:48:08 GMT -6
Bigger picture is,who would want to come here.They should have never let Cullop leave
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2021 14:41:43 GMT -6
Bigger picture is,who would want to come here.They should have never let Cullop leave Buss is likely the next head coach and that will probably improve the program immensely. Ruffing's first year was also not a team he recruited so there's that. I thought early on they looked pretty good in some components of their game. Of course, they were down to 3 or 4 decent players at year's end, and 8 overall. I don't know the details on all that, and I don't plan to look it up. The issue with women's ball at this level is, get a team that can play .500 or so. Really, there is no 'there' there after you finish your 4 years in the Valley. You aren't going to get through the regionals anyway. The top programs in the country are the same ones as they've been for the last 15 years. Find 10 young women who are good athletes, not just tall people who can shoot a layup.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2021 8:55:09 GMT -6
Ruffing must still have a job because of his pay grade. Honestly, if were he I would resign for the sake of the team. I would not want to do a job I wasn't very good at.
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Post by stennisrm72 on Mar 5, 2021 9:01:02 GMT -6
IU wasn't a real factor in B1G women's basketball until she got there so I wouldn't necessarily call it a pedigree. I doubt she's really ready to be a D1 head coach but, hell, can it get any worse? The interim head coach appeared to get the attention and respect of the players while Ruffing was out.
Albothepurple is spot on. We need better athletes.
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Post by ncace on Mar 5, 2021 9:01:56 GMT -6
Remember Dane Fife getting his shot at IU-FW? He was VERY young, but also proved that he could have respectable teams.
The basketball IQ, drive, and lack of perceived experience provide an interesting perspective. I’m sure Dane has been taken care of pretty well at MSU, but the question, “is Tyra ready?” For what we would pay, she would be a great fit, and would recruit some ladies that would have her sense of dedication and add some immediate talent. She’s smart, organized, and charismatic. On the other hand, Ruffing has none of those attributes.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2021 9:28:55 GMT -6
I don't know that Tyra Buss needs to win as much as she needs to make the program visible again to better players. She won't win any trophies -- maybe a spot in a regional tournament. MID-major teams aren't going to beat the top monolith teams anyhow. As it stands, the league calls UE a practice game. The question about whether she is "ready" is some kind of parlor game you are playing in your head. Who cares? The program is dead in the water and if you are asking if the assistant coach could improve it? Honestly, what do you have in mind?
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Post by evilleman on Mar 5, 2021 10:41:42 GMT -6
Buss is likely the next head coach and that will probably improve the program immensely. Ruffing's first year was also not a team he recruited so there's that. I thought early on they looked pretty good in some components of their game. Of course, they were down to 3 or 4 decent players at year's end, and 8 overall. I don't know the details on all that, and I don't plan to look it up. The issue with women's ball at this level is, get a team that can play .500 or so. Really, there is no 'there' there after you finish your 4 years in the Valley. You aren't going to get through the regionals anyway. The top programs in the country are the same ones as they've been for the last 15 years. Find 10 young women who are good athletes, not just tall people who can shoot a layup. Is Buss ready to be a head coach or is it only that she has the name recognition/IU pedigree?
According to some on this site she is ready to be the men's coach.
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Post by evilleman on Mar 5, 2021 10:43:27 GMT -6
Year | Record | Conference | 2016-17 | 14-17 | 8-10 | 2017-18 | 3-27 | 0-18 | 2018-19 | 4-26 | 2-16 | 2019-20 | 3-26 | 0-18 | 2020-21 | 6-17 | 2-14 | Total | 30-111 | 12-76 |
Matt became the head coach in March of 2016; so I think this accurately shows his record at UE. His first year was by far his best year and half of his wins (over five years) came in his first year. It is hard for me to fathom how a coach with this type of record got an extension last year (from what was said in the UNI game thread). We seem to be a little better this year (record wise) but it is nowhere near acceptable. Why would you keep a coach and give him an extension with this type of record? To save money? He is close to the Mendoza line.
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Post by 83Ace on Mar 5, 2021 12:41:14 GMT -6
Ruffing is 14-17 in seasons that the Ford was our home court. He is 16-94 with the Meeks as our home court. Just an observation.
I have never known a coach with his record to hang on as long as Ruffing. I do think that with our recent record and with playing at the Meeks, recruiting is going to be difficult for anybody. A young coach with some name recognition like Tyra Buss may be our best bet.
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Post by E-Villan on Mar 5, 2021 13:21:46 GMT -6
Honestly, I don't think Meeks is a deterrent. I would rather play in the atmosphere of Meeks, versus a 95% empty Ford Center. If the program ever got competitive again, you could always schedule a few games down there.
First, I am on record any of the assistants, as well as most of the beer vendors, would be an improvement over Ruffing. With that out of the way, other than being from the area, Tyra is the least qualified of the three on paper.
Doug Rogers, who Spencer put in charge during Ruffing's MIA bit, has been an assistant here for 7 years, and was Director of Basketball Operations for the women for 2 years prior to that.
Kaitlynn Pacholke has been an assistant here for 4 years, and prior to that, was a grad assistant at Florida for 2 years.
Tyra is in her first season of any coaching role, and played for IU.
Since Spencer put Rogers in charge, my assumption he is the heir apparent. I would hope not. Nothing against him, I know little. My concern is 1. He has been Ruffing's right hand man, and served under Epps as well. With those being his two coaching mentors, I would pass on that alone. My other concern is simply he is a male. Since I have no influence in the decision, I can say that. There are 9 female coaches in the MVC, and 1 male. I think females, especially younger, college-aged recruits, tend to relate to females better than men. Not being sexist in the least, just think it is natural, and more comfortable for them. My wife will only go to female doctors for General Practice and OBGYN. The two most successful coaches in our history were Kathi Bennett and Tricia Cullop. Our two biggest disasters have been Epps and Ruffing. There is more to that than gender, but I think there are advantages we need to utilize, so lets go back to the other pond to fish.
With that, if we are taking a current assistant, I would like to see some sound reasoning why Tyra would be a better choice TODAY than Pacholke. I get the local angle, but that mindset got us both Simmons and McCarty. I say today, because if I was AD, Ruffing wouldn't even being going to the conference tournament. The friendly lady pouring the suds behind 115 would be making the trip.
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Post by E-Villan on Mar 8, 2021 9:07:04 GMT -6
Well, the regular season is over after a couple of blowouts from Missouri State. Ruffing finished the conference 2-15, good for a five year conference record of 12-77. Of course, they are the #10 seed and will play #7 Valpo in the MVC Tournament in Moline.
Whoever wrote this opening paragraph on the UE site has a very bright future in Washington doing political PR. For the record, they were outscored every quarter, including 14-20 in the 4th. What kind of gap gets closed in a 41-point beatdown...at home?
EVANSVILLE - In its regular season finale, the University of Evansville women's basketball team fell behind early, but battled to close the gap in an 85-44 loss to No. 23 Missouri State on Saturday evening inside Meeks Family Fieldhouse in Evansville.
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Post by acecard on Mar 8, 2021 11:26:18 GMT -6
Well, the regular season is over after a couple of blowouts from Missouri State. Ruffing finished the conference 2-15, good for a five year conference record of 12-77. Of course, they are the #10 seed and will play #7 Valpo in the MVC Tournament in Moline. Whoever wrote this opening paragraph on the UE site has a very bright future in Washington doing political PR. For the record, they were outscored every quarter, including 14-20 in the 4th. What kind of gap gets closed in a 41-point beatdown...at home? EVANSVILLE - In its regular season finale, the University of Evansville women's basketball team fell behind early, but battled to close the gap in an 85-44 loss to No. 23 Missouri State on Saturday evening inside Meeks Family Fieldhouse in Evansville.The Ladies program is an embarrassment to the Aces. I don't see how they can continue with it the way it is.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2021 12:11:30 GMT -6
I don't know what qualifications a new coach needs if they can't recruit players who fit their style. Even at that, not unlike the men's program -- slow and short on talent is going to end up being a bad combination.
I don't think the issue about Buss is whether she is the best qualified but rather if she is the right person for the job. Getting the most qualified person from a program that rarely wins -- yeah, whatever. The coach needs to call people who will answer the phone and listen to a good recruiting story.
Buss will get a head coaching job eventually.
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