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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2023 16:36:43 GMT -6
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Post by stlscooter on Dec 8, 2023 15:25:34 GMT -6
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Post by stlscooter on Dec 20, 2023 15:12:22 GMT -6
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Post by indymoon on Dec 23, 2023 12:14:12 GMT -6
I thought they were headed to the Mountain West. What does this mean for football? Independents?
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Post by aces44 on Dec 23, 2023 12:55:41 GMT -6
I thought they were headed to the Mountain West. What does this mean for football? Independents? OSU and WSU have an agreement with the Mountain West for Football And now WCC for Basketball I’m not convinced they can make it work, but their plan is to steal the best from MW and WCC to rebuild the PAC12 I think the WCC is going to make them both realize they are MM’s and go begging the MW to take them as full members |
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Post by indymoon on Dec 23, 2023 16:07:28 GMT -6
So they don't want to join the MWC as full members because they would prevent them from breaking up the conference and creating their own later. I guess that makes sense (Of course, none of this makes common sense anymore; just $ sense).
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Post by aceloverlarry on Feb 26, 2024 14:08:40 GMT -6
UMass leaving the A10 for the MAC to help their football program. UMass was apparently being courted by CUSA, and they are considering MSU as a replacement option.
Seems like this UMass move will have ripple effects throughout the midmajor landscape. Will be interesting to see if it ends up affecting the MVC. Besides the potential MSU move, I would think the A10 would look to replace UMass, and while there’s no obvious choice for replacement in the MVC, I wouldn’t rule anything out either.
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Post by ATP on Feb 26, 2024 14:18:50 GMT -6
UMass leaving the A10 for the MAC to help their football program. UMass was apparently being courted by CUSA, and they are considering MSU as a replacement option. Seems like this UMass move will have ripple effects throughout the midmajor landscape. Will be interesting to see if it ends up affecting the MVC. Besides the potential MSU move, I would think the A10 would look to replace UMass, and while there’s no obvious choice for replacement in the MVC, I wouldn’t rule anything out either. Any number of programs could be willing to take the next step up, including some of the Horizon schools. |
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Post by aceloverlarry on Feb 26, 2024 14:26:52 GMT -6
I think the college of Charleston would probably be the A10s top pick. Fits geographically, institutionally, and they’re committed to basketball with nice facilities and a great young coach.
If that fails, I’m not sure where they go. They’re at 15 with UMass, so they’d probably just stay at 14 before adding someone just to add someone. I could definitely see them having interest in Belmont, but I’m not sure the interest would be reciprocal.
If someone leaves the MVC, I could see us looking into a horizon league team, but I don’t think there’s any programs that would generate interest from the A10 or CUSA.
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Post by ATP on Feb 26, 2024 15:16:49 GMT -6
I think the college of Charleston would probably be the A10s top pick. Fits geographically, institutionally, and they’re committed to basketball with nice facilities and a great young coach. If that fails, I’m not sure where they go. They’re at 15 with UMass, so they’d probably just stay at 14 before adding someone just to add someone. I could definitely see them having interest in Belmont, but I’m not sure the interest would be reciprocal. If someone leaves the MVC, I could see us looking into a horizon league team, but I don’t think there’s any programs that would generate interest from the A10 or CUSA. Tough to tell, but I got the sense that Northern Ky. was looking to get out of the Horizon. That was before Loyola/UIC/Murray/Belmont shifting occurred. I don't follow the Horizon at all now, and the only link NKU would maybe covet is the one with Dayton. For other sports, no idea. Dayton is Pioneer football. I honestly don't think the MAC is much of a league now that the transfer portal riddled all their football programs. Changing conferences between the Valley, CUSA, A-10 ... it's like moving the deck furniture around. Teams get something of a following and then they start playing somewhere in Rhode Island. I'd say if Misery State wants to go -- see ya! The Valley can boot Valpo back to the Horizon where it belongs. |
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Post by ad1770 on Feb 26, 2024 15:24:16 GMT -6
I think the college of Charleston would probably be the A10s top pick. Fits geographically, institutionally, and they’re committed to basketball with nice facilities and a great young coach. If that fails, I’m not sure where they go. They’re at 15 with UMass, so they’d probably just stay at 14 before adding someone just to add someone. I could definitely see them having interest in Belmont, but I’m not sure the interest would be reciprocal. If someone leaves the MVC, I could see us looking into a horizon league team, but I don’t think there’s any programs that would generate interest from the A10 or CUSA. If Missouri State were to jump to CUSA, could you see a scenario where the MVC gets proactive and grabs three school to bump it to 14 in conference? We all know we will be hearing the usual suspects (insert Dakota schools here, St. Thomas), but if it happens, who would you like to see move in? |
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Post by aceloverlarry on Feb 26, 2024 15:39:46 GMT -6
I think the college of Charleston would probably be the A10s top pick. Fits geographically, institutionally, and they’re committed to basketball with nice facilities and a great young coach. If that fails, I’m not sure where they go. They’re at 15 with UMass, so they’d probably just stay at 14 before adding someone just to add someone. I could definitely see them having interest in Belmont, but I’m not sure the interest would be reciprocal. If someone leaves the MVC, I could see us looking into a horizon league team, but I don’t think there’s any programs that would generate interest from the A10 or CUSA. If Missouri State were to jump to CUSA, could you see a scenario where the MVC gets proactive and grabs three school to bump it to 14 in conference? We all know we will be hearing the usual suspects (insert Dakota schools here, St. Thomas), but if it happens, who would you like to see move in? It would be interesting to see what happens. I’m not sure how revenue sharing works, but it might not make sense to jump to 14 if it’s reducing the revenue shared per member. If it would solidify us as a multi bid league with more NCAA tournament shares it would be a no brainer, but if there’s not more revenue coming, I’m not sure it makes sense. St Thomas is an interesting one. They have a lot of potential for sure and would add a major media market, but as a new D1 team, there’s not much to justify adding them on besides potential, which doesn’t always translate to productive conference members. I’d definitely take them over UTA or UMKC. I can’t believe we were seriously looking at UTA when Loyola left. I think Northern Kentucky would be a good add, but I’m not sure if the league would want to shift the footprint that far east. It would be a really good add for us, Murray, and Belmont though. Would create natural geographical rivals for all of us, give us an easily traveled road game in a nice arena, and they have an MVC caliber fan base and commitment to basketball. They’re also in a decent metro area, although I doubt they compare to Xavier, Cincy, Dayton in the Cincy media market. If MSU left and I was picking their replacement, I think NKU would be my pick. |
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Post by ATP on Feb 26, 2024 16:31:04 GMT -6
If Missouri State were to jump to CUSA, could you see a scenario where the MVC gets proactive and grabs three school to bump it to 14 in conference? We all know we will be hearing the usual suspects (insert Dakota schools here, St. Thomas), but if it happens, who would you like to see move in? I think Northern Kentucky would be a good add, but I’m not sure if the league would want to shift the footprint that far east. It would be a really good add for us, Murray, and Belmont though. Would create natural geographical rivals for all of us, give us an easily traveled road game in a nice arena, and they have an MVC caliber fan base and commitment to basketball. They’re also in a decent metro area, although I doubt they compare to Xavier, Cincy, Dayton in the Cincy media market. If MSU left and I was picking their replacement, I think NKU would be my pick. I have to think that the Summit is hoping it survives the next round of thimble shifts. I think St. Thomas will stay put until they have some leverage. Would NKU be more attracted toward Bellarmine than Belmont? In another universe, I'd be interested in seeing USI hop into the Valley. |
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Post by E-Villan on Feb 26, 2024 17:22:02 GMT -6
There was a time I sort of understood the appeal of going FBS for football, but I have no idea what the future looks like on the gridiron for anyone not in the P4. I have a feeling the doors will close behind them and everyone else will be playing some type of FCS.
If Missouri State thinks this is the move they need to make then fine. We can replace them with NKU and hardly anyone will notice from a basketball perspective.
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Post by 65pointgame on Feb 26, 2024 17:30:34 GMT -6
I have no idea what the TV rights revenue is for teams in the A10, but wondering if it is large enough for those at St. Louis U to justify the travel expense to the East coast for non-rev sports? Except for Loyola, everything is a plane ride from SLU, while Carbondale, Peoria, etc are just a hop, skip and jump away.
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