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Post by wildbill on Feb 26, 2024 17:38:34 GMT -6
This is beyond ridiculous. I can imagine in future seasons, the NCAA will create something similar to the FBS or DI-aa for non P5 schools.
UE better really turn it up, or we'll never see another NCAA bid.
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Post by wildbill on Feb 26, 2024 17:47:08 GMT -6
Never mind, I'm a bot account.....remember Mr. Moderator?
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Post by pilotj on Feb 26, 2024 17:58:06 GMT -6
There was a time I sort of understood the appeal of going FBS for football, but I have no idea what the future looks like on the gridiron for anyone not in the P4. I have a feeling the doors will close behind them and everyone else will be playing some type of FCS. The P4 really looks like the P2 starting with the 2024 season. Big Ten and SEC. 11 of the top 12 teams in the 2023 CFP ranking will be members of those conferences next year.
But apparently there's a scramble to join FBS right now, because the NCAA is raising the application fee by 100x in the coming months.
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Post by ATP on Feb 26, 2024 18:06:33 GMT -6
I have no idea what the TV rights revenue is for teams in the A10, but wondering if it is large enough for those at St. Louis U to justify the travel expense to the East coast for non-rev sports? Except for Loyola, everything is a plane ride from SLU, while Carbondale, Peoria, etc are just a hop, skip and jump away. That seems like such an obvious point that I am constantly puzzled by why the AD's of these conferences overlook it. We don't need to be reminded that back in 'the day' when the "Big 4" of the Tri-State put 9,000 in the Stadium on a Wednesday night when KWC, SIU and ISU came calling. Yeah yeah yeah ... those were the olden days and people have their own YouTube channel now. I'd honestly like to get a dozen of these people in a room and ask them if they think conference hopping is actually doing them any favors. Dunno ... I'd rather be playing in an area that stretches from Iowa to Tennessee across three of the most rabid basketball fan bases in the country (and has been for 60 years) than try to fly over 6 states just to get to a game in suburban Philadelphia. If it's only about TV revenue, then something really has gone wrong. That does not include the fact I ain't buyin' no stinkin' subscription to the ACC Network.
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Post by paradeuce on Feb 26, 2024 18:52:47 GMT -6
Curious....is Bally Sports a sector of Bally Gaming/'Vegas?
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Post by aceloverlarry on Feb 26, 2024 19:21:02 GMT -6
Curious....is Bally Sports a sector of Bally Gaming/'Vegas? The TV network is a completely separate entity, but Ballys the casino had the TV naming rights for all the regional sports networks. I think I read somewhere that the deal expires this year. Not sure what it will be called once it expires. Very weird for a network to sell sponsorship naming rights
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Post by harrison88 on Feb 26, 2024 19:42:15 GMT -6
I think Northern Kentucky would be a good add, but I’m not sure if the league would want to shift the footprint that far east. It would be a really good add for us, Murray, and Belmont though. Would create natural geographical rivals for all of us, give us an easily traveled road game in a nice arena, and they have an MVC caliber fan base and commitment to basketball. They’re also in a decent metro area, although I doubt they compare to Xavier, Cincy, Dayton in the Cincy media market. If MSU left and I was picking their replacement, I think NKU would be my pick. I have to think that the Summit is hoping it survives the next round of thimble shifts. I think St. Thomas will stay put until they have some leverage. Would NKU be more attracted toward Bellarmine than Belmont? In another universe, I'd be interested in seeing USI hop into the Valley. UE would never let USI into the MVC besides USI does have the finances to be in the MVC
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Post by bandwagon fan on Feb 26, 2024 20:12:22 GMT -6
A few PAP members enjoy knocking on Chicago State. I still have good friends living in Wrigleyville, telling me they (Chicago State) expect to be fielding a football team, within 3 years. When they become a football school, they'll be looking to join a midwestern conference as well. Oh....they did upset Northwestern earlier this year.
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Post by aceschamps6571 on Feb 26, 2024 20:13:22 GMT -6
I have to think that the Summit is hoping it survives the next round of thimble shifts. I think St. Thomas will stay put until they have some leverage. Would NKU be more attracted toward Bellarmine than Belmont? In another universe, I'd be interested in seeing USI hop into the Valley. UE would never let USI into the MVC besides USI does have the finances to be in the MVC It's way too soon for USI to be joining the MVC. They're only in their 2nd season of transition into Div. I. But if the time comes that the MVC were to extend an invitation, how would UE stop it from happening? No one school can stop another from joining. All the league members have a vote. You can dislike UE all you want, but the folks on Walnut Ave. have enough to do running a Div. I sports program and trying to compete. They're not out to sabotage your program.
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Post by ATP on Feb 26, 2024 20:32:00 GMT -6
I have to think that the Summit is hoping it survives the next round of thimble shifts. I think St. Thomas will stay put until they have some leverage. Would NKU be more attracted toward Bellarmine than Belmont? In another universe, I'd be interested in seeing USI hop into the Valley. UE would never let USI into the MVC besides USI does have the finances to be in the MVC Yes, that would be the universe we inhabit. The other one was where they actually get in, see?
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Post by austinace on Feb 26, 2024 23:16:22 GMT -6
Texas A&M didn’t want Texas in the SEC (for various reasons like recruiting territory competition). But ultimately their one vote couldn’t stop it from happening; so the vote was unanimous to invite Texas and OU to join the SEC.
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Post by E-Villan on Feb 27, 2024 8:02:24 GMT -6
As long as UE is in the MVC, USI won't be. It has nothing to do with whether UE wants them or not, but the simple fact it would make no sense for the MVC to add a second school in an existing market. I doubt they would want two in Nashville or Chicago, let alone Evansville.
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Post by paradeuce on Feb 27, 2024 9:39:52 GMT -6
Isn't Valpo considered the Chi-town "market." (SMA)
Btw, they're talking on ISU board about high ticket sales for the Aces game Wed night. It's THESE atmosphere's which fuel the E-ville/ISU rivalry. I'm seeing an Aces upset...boy would that be a lasting scar in their bark.
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Post by aceschamps6571 on Feb 27, 2024 10:45:01 GMT -6
As long as UE is in the MVC, USI won't be. It has nothing to do with whether UE wants them or not, but the simple fact it would make no sense for the MVC to add a second school in an existing market. I doubt they would want two in Nashville or Chicago, let alone Evansville. Agree with this. But that would not be UE not allowing them to join, which must be how some are seeing it, or would see it.
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Post by harrison88 on Feb 27, 2024 17:05:48 GMT -6
UE would never let USI into the MVC besides USI does have the finances to be in the MVC It's way too soon for USI to be joining the MVC. They're only in their 2nd season of transition into Div. I. But if the time comes that the MVC were to extend an invitation, how would UE stop it from happening? No one school can stop another from joining. All the league members have a vote. You can dislike UE all you want, but the folks on Walnut Ave. have enough to do running a Div. I sports program and trying to compete. They're not out to sabotage your program. I should have said UE would never want USI in the MVC and UE would try to get 3 schools to vote no but E-Villan is correct it would not benefit the MVC if USI was in the MVC. For the tv markets the MVC should look at Saint Louis, Kansas City and IUPU-Indianapolis. I do not dislike or like UE. UE is just another school to me. What I do not like is the superior attitude that some UE fans and UE Administrators have towards USI.
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