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Post by evilleman on Feb 19, 2020 14:11:54 GMT -6
You're certainly entitled to your opinion but the kid had a chance to leave for what he saw as a better opportunity. Just like you and I would do with our jobs. I don't have one problem with him leaving and wish him the best. It would be easier to feel this way if they hadn't tried to get us to lie about his transfer for eligibility, or the absolute morons that bombarded social media from Mizzou. Not to mention he was gift wrapped and hand delivered by the previous coaching staff. Certainly respect that viewpoint. Dru was responsible for very little of what your issues are. As far as he is concerned, I just view it as he saw it as a better opportunity. I can't hold that against him. I also want him to do well.
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Post by sect3purple on Feb 19, 2020 16:33:07 GMT -6
I hope DeAndre heals completely and that he comes back soon...and that he chooses UE as the team he leads to national recognition in our future success. I don't think he has to transfer to a Power 5 school to get noticed - he will do great things here, and TL has connections to the pros, so why go through a transfer and spend more time sitting on the bench for another year? He needs more experience and development to make a run at the pros, and I think that eliminates a move after this season. I think loyalty to a team (which Dru didn't have) says as much about a player as his numbers do - but that may just be one of those "ideas according to Sect." I leave the strategy and coaching decisions to the experts. I tend to put a lot of faith in the mental, passion, team-loyalty, energy, attitude issues that make good teams great teams. Watch DeAndre play for one game and you see a good player playing like a great player because of all these factors...."The Wild ONE" - get well soon and rejoin this improving team!
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Post by ncace on Feb 19, 2020 16:45:46 GMT -6
I was disappointed that Dru didn't stay at UE, but he has proven that he can play at a P5 school, indeed start and compete with defensive intensity and endurance. He fills the stat sheet every game and does whatever his team needs for him to do. As much as I am sorry we don't have him, he has probably increased his visibility by transferring to Mizzou, and it is difficult for me to find fault with a decision he felt was best for his career. He would have been an asset to any P5 school lucky enough to get him. Good luck Dru.
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Post by db1972 on Feb 19, 2020 16:54:24 GMT -6
I think loyalty to a team (which Dru didn't have) says as much about a player as his numbers do Dru deserves a better rap than what he's getting on this board. By all accounts, he was best friends with Blake, and Marty's departure was handled poorly by the athletic department. Dru showed his loyalty (albeit to his coach, not his team) by transferring. You can argue players should play for the name on the jersey, but we all know they come for the coach. I have nothing but the utmost respect for Dru and his decision, and I hope we can collectively stop bashing him on this board.
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Post by evilleways on Feb 19, 2020 17:15:52 GMT -6
Coach Lick says he hopes DeAndre is back for tomorrow; if not, it sounds like it will be Sunday. Alright alright alright. More at the blog.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2020 17:51:33 GMT -6
I think loyalty to a team (which Dru didn't have) says as much about a player as his numbers do Dru deserves a better rap than what he's getting on this board. By all accounts, he was best friends with Blake, and Marty's departure was handled poorly by the athletic department. Dru showed his loyalty (albeit to his coach, not his team) by transferring. You can argue players should play for the name on the jersey, but we all know they come for the coach. I have nothing but the utmost respect for Dru and his decision, and I hope we can collectively stop bashing him on this board. Seems like most of the vitriol surrounding this was generated by a writer named "Ben Fred" who accused UE of stifling the transfer and then doubling down on it later on.
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Post by ACES FAN on Feb 19, 2020 17:59:36 GMT -6
I obviously welcome DW back ASAP. It would seem that the possibility of being a little rusty and not in game shape. The sooner the better.
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Post by municup14 on Feb 19, 2020 18:19:42 GMT -6
I think loyalty to a team (which Dru didn't have) says as much about a player as his numbers do Dru deserves a better rap than what he's getting on this board. By all accounts, he was best friends with Blake, and Marty's departure was handled poorly by the athletic department. Dru showed his loyalty (albeit to his coach, not his team) by transferring. You can argue players should play for the name on the jersey, but we all know they come for the coach. I have nothing but the utmost respect for Dru and his decision, and I hope we can collectively stop bashing him on this board. Marty's departure was handled poorly,WTF.He never made it to the big dance,padded his record with low D1 schools.Wow
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Post by db1972 on Feb 19, 2020 18:34:47 GMT -6
Dru deserves a better rap than what he's getting on this board. By all accounts, he was best friends with Blake, and Marty's departure was handled poorly by the athletic department. Dru showed his loyalty (albeit to his coach, not his team) by transferring. You can argue players should play for the name on the jersey, but we all know they come for the coach. I have nothing but the utmost respect for Dru and his decision, and I hope we can collectively stop bashing him on this board. Marty's departure was handled poorly,WTF.He never made it to the big dance,padded his record with low D1 schools.Wow To clarify, I am 100% in the camp that Marty should have been fired due to underperformance. HOWEVER, I have heard from multiple sources that it was handled incredibly unprofessionally from the university's perspective, and I am inclined to believe that. The one thing we, the public, know that looks fishy is that Marty was not informed he was being fired until roughly 10 days after the season ended. Typically, coaches are fired within 3 days after the season ending. Even somebody who "padded his record with low D1 schools" deserves to be treated with respect, and from everything I have heard, Marty was not. It makes sense if you think about it because it would explain why he acted the way he did after being fired. Or alternatively, you can think he's a scumbag, but based on the caliber of men he produced in terms of real-world contributions, I think that argument has more than a few holes.
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Post by mybigpurplebrain on Feb 19, 2020 18:39:07 GMT -6
I think loyalty to a team (which Dru didn't have) says as much about a player as his numbers do Dru deserves a better rap than what he's getting on this board. By all accounts, he was best friends with Blake, and Marty's departure was handled poorly by the athletic department. Dru showed his loyalty (albeit to his coach, not his team) by transferring. You can argue players should play for the name on the jersey, but we all know they come for the coach. I have nothing but the utmost respect for Dru and his decision, and I hope we can collectively stop bashing him on this board. How exactly did the athletic department handle letting Marty go poorly? They told him he was fired. That’s what you do when someone is fired . The only poorly handled situation was how Marty left and said nothing about his time here.
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Post by acescott on Feb 19, 2020 18:41:05 GMT -6
I don't agree that Dru showed loyalty by leaving, as he did not go where Marty went.But I loved Dru when he was here, worked hard, smart, well spoken local guy. It hurt when he left. If he yearned for a more visible program or conference, I get it. If he transferred to help pro chances, I don't get it. Good players get noticed wherever they are. He would have put up some incredible numbers here to finish his career. He's doing well and I wish him well.
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Post by mybigpurplebrain on Feb 19, 2020 18:44:08 GMT -6
Marty's departure was handled poorly,WTF.He never made it to the big dance,padded his record with low D1 schools.Wow To clarify, I am 100% in the camp that Marty should have been fired due to underperformance. HOWEVER, I have heard from multiple sources that it was handled incredibly unprofessionally from the university's perspective, and I am inclined to believe that. The one thing we, the public, know that looks fishy is that Marty was not informed he was being fired until roughly 10 days after the season ended. Typically, coaches are fired within 3 days after the season ending. Even somebody who "padded his record with low D1 schools" deserves to be treated with respect, and from everything I have heard, Marty was not. It makes sense if you think about it because it would explain why he acted the way he did after being fired. Or alternatively, you can think he's a scumbag, but based on the caliber of men he produced in terms of real-world contributions, I think that argument has more than a few holes. 3 days or ten days or in the middle of the season. When the decision is made you are done and it is what it is. Do you really think your employer would follow some set of wn written rules if they thought you should be fired . Do they give you two weeks notice as they hope you do ? No. Your done when they tell you you're done.
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Post by Aces&Eights on Feb 19, 2020 19:14:26 GMT -6
How and why has a topic "DeAndre Williams" become a rehash about Dru Smith and Marty Simmons?
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Post by ibleedpurple on Feb 19, 2020 19:31:28 GMT -6
www.foxnews.com/sports/ncaa-moves-toward-immediate-eligibility-for-all-transfersLooks like sitting out a year is getting ready to change. As far as DeAndre goes I heard from a reliable source yesterday, he will begin playing again in one of the next two games and he has told the coaches he is coming back next year. I’m sure there is illegal activity that goes on to try and get such a good player from a school like Evansville to a power 5, so I guess we will have to wait and see. From what I have been hearing the kids are excited Coach Lick came back and the assistant coaches appear to like it as well. Not sure if Seltzer will stick around (no big loss imho) and perhaps Coach Lick has someone in mind to help him as he is well connected and make a change on his own. I expect DW to be back because his options are really not that great. He has to sit out a year if he plays some yet this year and only has one year left. What would be gained by that? Nothing ! We have a lot left this year but I am cautiously optimistic about next year. Should DW and SC and our Nebraska transfer be in the Aces fold along with the Hall kid from Conn plus a number of returning players I can see us have a very solid year. Of course we have been thinking the break out year was going to happen this year and no one ever expected what happened so hopefully the progress will only be delayed by one season. It's been 20 years since we have done anything worth talking about. I know the fans are ready and many are just waiting for more Ws to really start backing our program. We are all past starved for some success and I hope we are not all dead before we see a tournament beginning with an N ! Go Aces !! Still on board.....BLEED
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Post by db1972 on Feb 19, 2020 19:38:46 GMT -6
To clarify, I am 100% in the camp that Marty should have been fired due to underperformance. HOWEVER, I have heard from multiple sources that it was handled incredibly unprofessionally from the university's perspective, and I am inclined to believe that. The one thing we, the public, know that looks fishy is that Marty was not informed he was being fired until roughly 10 days after the season ended. Typically, coaches are fired within 3 days after the season ending. Even somebody who "padded his record with low D1 schools" deserves to be treated with respect, and from everything I have heard, Marty was not. It makes sense if you think about it because it would explain why he acted the way he did after being fired. Or alternatively, you can think he's a scumbag, but based on the caliber of men he produced in terms of real-world contributions, I think that argument has more than a few holes. 3 days or ten days or in the middle of the season. When the decision is made you are done and it is what it is. Do you really think your employer would follow some set of wn written rules if they thought you should be fired . Do they give you two weeks notice as they hope you do ? No. Your done when they tell you you're done. So you're telling me that if you got fired right now with no warning, that you would go out and say nice things about your former employer? I highly doubt it. Would you come in to work the next day? Of course not, you just got fired. I fail to see how that is a poor reflection on your character as you have a right to be upset and want to tell your friends how much they screwed you! @acesandeights, you're correct, my apologies. Last comment I'll make regarding non-DeAndre topics on this thread.
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