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Post by municup14 on May 6, 2021 3:58:51 GMT -6
New Mexico web site has her listed as a forward
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Post by heavensvilleace on May 6, 2021 7:47:51 GMT -6
Just curious, where do you go to get that sort of insight? Virtually everything I learned in life came from people who are smarter than I am. I guess since you are the smartest one here, you've just graciously come here to educate us on womens college bb
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Post by acecard on May 6, 2021 8:21:31 GMT -6
I don't know that 'hitting the weight room to bulk up' is what you tell the female athlete. Then again, this isn't where I go to get that sort of insight. But think how much smarter you appear to be, if that's possible.
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2021 8:47:32 GMT -6
Virtually everything I learned in life came from people who are smarter than I am. I guess since you are the smartest one here, you've just graciously come here to educate us on womens college bb When did I claim to be smarter than you? I look for information in places where smart people discuss it. But I also am not stupid and have actually talked to women who play sports. They don't BULK UP in the weight room the way that men do. That is just regular knowledge gained over 50 centuries of human history. You don't need to be a genius. If you say this young lady needs to improve her footwork, stamina, hand-eye coordination, general fundamentals, I can buy that. I also don't know if she needs to do that or is even capable of it. But she isn't going to BULK UP. This isn't that complicated, so turn down the flame, OK?
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Post by bballjunkie on May 6, 2021 9:34:49 GMT -6
Why can't she "bulk up"? All female athletes participate in strength and conditioning + nutrition programs just like men's programs do.
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Post by heavensvilleace on May 6, 2021 9:41:04 GMT -6
When did I claim to be smarter than you? I look for information in places where smart people discuss it. But I also am not stupid and have actually talked to women who play sports. They don't BULK UP in the weight room the way that men do. I don't know that 'hitting the weight room to bulk up' is what you tell the female athlete. Then again, this isn't where I go to get that sort of insight. Just curious, where do you go to get that sort of insight? Virtually everything I learned in life came from people who are smarter than I am. That reads a certain way to me, idk.
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2021 11:04:15 GMT -6
When did I claim to be smarter than you? I look for information in places where smart people discuss it. But I also am not stupid and have actually talked to women who play sports. They don't BULK UP in the weight room the way that men do. I don't know that 'hitting the weight room to bulk up' is what you tell the female athlete. Then again, this isn't where I go to get that sort of insight. That reads a certain way to me, idk. I didn't intend to profess wisdom. All I know is what I've learned from the people who know about this stuff. I am simply suggesting that anyone who thinks a female athlete ought to hit the weight room and bulk up is projecting some kind of science that is -- at best, laughable.
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2021 11:07:10 GMT -6
Why can't she "bulk up"? All female athletes participate in strength and conditioning + nutrition programs just like men's programs do. Define bulk. Strength and bulk are different things. I doubt that many women want to add 30 pounds of bulk to hold their position in the post.
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Post by austinace on May 6, 2021 11:26:13 GMT -6
Sounds like semantics to me. Strength and conditioning training/bulk up. Whatever you want to call it. She has a lean frame and needs to get stronger. This is quite common for young tall kids that need to compete at the D1 level - it doesn't matter if you are a female or male. If you want to compete at this level you have to get stronger, etc.
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2021 12:00:35 GMT -6
Sounds like semantics to me. Strength and conditioning training/bulk up. Whatever you want to call it. She has a lean frame and needs to get stronger. This is quite common for young tall kids that need to compete at the D1 level - it doesn't matter if you are a female or male. If you want to compete at this level you have to get stronger, etc. I am going to yield to you on this, since the terms are just jibberish. Conditioning and upper body strength are likely the products of human maturity but I am again not the smart person in that conversation. But a visual of this young lady might make us want to think she needs to be stronger. Maybe she just needs to develop a hook shot instead. The 'weight room' comment set me off to the side since I don't know if female athletes condition the same way as men do. My hunch is running laps would be of value, but since I am neither tall nor female, that's a guess. Being tall has its own set of rules for everyone other than the Green Giant. ho ho ho.
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Post by heavensvilleace on May 6, 2021 12:07:15 GMT -6
Sounds like semantics to me. Strength and conditioning training/bulk up. Whatever you want to call it. She has a lean frame and needs to get stronger. This is quite common for young tall kids that need to compete at the D1 level - it doesn't matter if you are a female or male. If you want to compete at this level you have to get stronger, etc. Agree. I'm assuming the poster was just trying to insinuate that from the video clips shared, it would appear that she could up her strength training and it wouldn't hurt..but of course these clips are probably a few years old. I'm also going to assume that she is a little stronger than she was before she spent 2 years at a d1 program. Also we have to consider that we dont know how 'big' the staff would want her to get because we are going to be up and down the floor quickly getting back in transition based on the style of play RSW has utilized in the past. So in that sense, as albo said, "bulk up" may not be the best verbage here, lol.
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Post by bballjunkie on May 6, 2021 12:07:33 GMT -6
Female athletes do use weight rooms, agility work, plyometrics, run, etc. just like men do. And back to bulking up, my daughter uses that term when talking about using the weight room to add muscle. She uses free weights, machines, goes to strength classes, kickboxing classes, etc to become a better athlete. Why do people act like men are the only ones who work out to improve athletic performance?
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Post by heavensvilleace on May 6, 2021 12:17:32 GMT -6
Female athletes do use weight rooms, agility work, plyometrics, run, etc. just like men do. And back to bulking up, my daughter uses that term when talking about using the weight room to add muscle. She uses free weights, machines, goes to strength classes, kickboxing classes, etc to become a better athlete. Why do people act like men are the only ones who work out to improve athletic performance? I was going to mention that Andrea Hudy, uconn wbb new strength coach has worked for Kansas mbb and Texas mbb as her last 2 jobs. Same sport, same drills, same workouts.
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2021 12:45:45 GMT -6
Female athletes do use weight rooms, agility work, plyometrics, run, etc. just like men do. And back to bulking up, my daughter uses that term when talking about using the weight room to add muscle. She uses free weights, machines, goes to strength classes, kickboxing classes, etc to become a better athlete. Why do people act like men are the only ones who work out to improve athletic performance? This is a fair assessment and takes the topic into the realm of at least a decent comparison. What I would know for certain is that a young person coming into a college BB program has likely never faced this much competition or this long a schedule. Adding muscle or strength is a topic way above my pay grade and I tried mostly through this discourse to underline that. I just found 'bulking up' to be somewhat outside what I'd expect of a 6-foot-4 girl who may end up needing stronger knees than shoulders. That's also outside my realm of expertise. But if she wants to play a grueling college schedule, those are 30-some games, not 18. The players are all as good or quicker, not just the best 5 the other team could dredge up. I have no idea what a female athlete ought to do in the conditioning room, and I think my comment about 'insight' was aimed at it. But we are also discussing the women's program with the same definitions as we do the men's program. The lens ought to be different and we should maybe at least acknowledge -- the men and the women are only in the same place in terms of their on-court record. They should be entitled to pursue their own direction and what this new coach brings in is -- to me -- quite interesting. This is a classic rebuild/build moment for a mid-major program that until now is probably been nothing but 'warming up for the next real game.' If the weight room is something Ruffing ignored, that could be at least one reason why he's an assistant at a program 1,500 miles from Indiana.
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Post by 6thman on May 6, 2021 13:07:08 GMT -6
I guess since you are the smartest one here, you've just graciously come here to educate us on womens college bb When did I claim to be smarter than you? I look for information in places where smart people discuss it. But I also am not stupid and have actually talked to women who play sports. They don't BULK UP in the weight room the way that men do. That is just regular knowledge gained over 50 centuries of human history. You don't need to be a genius. If you say this young lady needs to improve her footwork, stamina, hand-eye coordination, general fundamentals, I can buy that. I also don't know if she needs to do that or is even capable of it. But she isn't going to BULK UP. This isn't that complicated, so turn down the flame, OK? So I would guess that 'bulking up' is a way to fill out muscle tone, strength, and conditioning for women players. However when we deal with the transgender women ruling, bulking up will mean the same as the men's team.
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