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Post by aces44 on Mar 25, 2024 16:17:05 GMT -6
LOL I need this in my life!!! Watching Cal coach for $1/yr at a new school (PULEEESEE let it be UofL) bc UK is on the hook for that, while he dumps what would be, his entire salary into the NIL budget - just to whip UK’s Azzzzzz, would be Amazing!!! Kentucky fans are both incredibly entitled and incredibly stupid. He’s had disappointing results, but there isn’t a viable option that they would be happy with or that would do any better. They need to realize that his run from 2009-2015 was one of the best in CBB history and no one is going to replicate it. That run was also likely fueled by paying players under the table before it was legal. I hope they get what they want and firing Cal sinks their program into irrelevance for a few years. I agree, with a couple of respectful differences of opinion: 1) Cal told me to my face “44, people think I cheat, look around, I don’t have to cheat anymore!” ^^^ that’s a real quote 2) Cal hasn’t put together a game plan in several years, since maybe he signed his contract. I don’t think it’s as bad as people claiming he has admitted to not scouting opponents, but the only true set he has ran in the last maybe 5 yrs is that Diamond Floppy action, so… no I don’t think he is staying late watching film and game planning (which you might want to do for $9MM/yr) 3) The game has changed. These are Professional leagues now. Think about how Howard had a 26yr old on their team this year, UNC had a 25yr old, and Oakland had the 24yr old kid who hit all the 3’s against them. Btw, I would have been in my 10th College Season to be playing as a 26yr old …. 10th. So getting great 18yr olds isn’t the goldmine it was even 3yrs ago The NCAA seems to have less and less ability to enforce rules so it’s looking like there will be 30yr olds on college rosters in the near future (assuming they are still enrolled in class I guess) so the talented 18yr olds will be even less dominant in the future Realistically Cal has about 3 more years of doing what he is doing with significant success. There is a reason the NBA doesn’t want 18yr olds in the league, and it’s about to get real for the college coaches. Matt Painter said a couple years ago that the way to win is to Get Old and Stay Old. He was ahead of the curve. Cal was ahead of the curve for a long time, and needs to catch up now. Can an old dog learn new tricks?
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Post by youngacesfan on Mar 25, 2024 17:36:11 GMT -6
Cal ain’t getting fired. They’re not paying a 33 million dollar buyout on a guy who just got them in as a 3 seed and will have a good team again next year. Sounds like Louisville is hiring Kelsey so schertz will probably land in stl. Not sure how everything else will play out
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Post by austinace on Mar 25, 2024 22:21:33 GMT -6
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Post by paradeuce on Mar 26, 2024 9:32:29 GMT -6
ESPN's MARK ADAMS (former MVC HC) flashed a good comparative graph on Sweet 16 Budgets:
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Post by ATP on Mar 26, 2024 10:01:52 GMT -6
RE: the age thing. One of the CBI teams had a player who graduated high school in 2017. Lots of bulking up and life experiences for a guy who has made about a third of his life into basketball as a dream job. All this without discernable NIL money at a CBI team. But I never thought Calipari was a good coach. He is a good program manipulator and apparently somebody who can steer money around the goalposts to get players who like to wear a KENTUCKY shirt while living somewhere within driving distance of Lexington. There is one coach in UK history -- Rupp. Everyone else is living off some kind of historical fantasy. UE fans are no different about Crews.
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Post by aceloverlarry on Mar 26, 2024 10:16:23 GMT -6
Schertz is still reportedly the top candidate at Louisville. Crazy that their incompetent administration is about to fall ass backwards into a great hire.
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Post by aceloverlarry on Mar 26, 2024 14:56:45 GMT -6
They’re now saying Schertz has already signed a memorandum of understanding with SLU that comes with a $1,000,000+ buyout, which Louisville is unwilling to pay. Sounds like he will be off to SLU the day after the ISU season concludes
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Post by acepurple84 on Mar 26, 2024 15:53:47 GMT -6
They’re now saying Schertz has already signed a memorandum of understanding with SLU that comes with a $1,000,000+ buyout, which Louisville is unwilling to pay. Sounds like he will be off to SLU the day after the ISU season concludes I know SLU is in the A10 and all but I still feel that ISUb is in a better position for the future than SLU.
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Post by kentuckyace on Mar 26, 2024 16:38:25 GMT -6
They’re now saying Schertz has already signed a memorandum of understanding with SLU that comes with a $1,000,000+ buyout, which Louisville is unwilling to pay. Sounds like he will be off to SLU the day after the ISU season concludes I know SLU is in the A10 and all but I still feel that ISUb is in a better position for the future than SLU. Travis Ford was making $2.3 million at SLU. ISU paying Schertz $365k per year. All about the money for coach and does the program have NIL cash. I’m guessing SLU has more NIL money for players too if they can pay a coach $2M more than ISU is paying.
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Post by youngacesfan on Mar 26, 2024 17:14:54 GMT -6
ISU is arguably a bottom level mvc job. SLU has the resources to jump to the big east. It’s not even close
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Post by Purp on Mar 27, 2024 8:44:47 GMT -6
And let's not forget ego here. I'm sure Schertz believes he can win anywhere he goes, and who's to argue with what he's done so far.
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Post by ATP on Mar 27, 2024 8:58:32 GMT -6
I know SLU is in the A10 and all but I still feel that ISUb is in a better position for the future than SLU. Travis Ford was making $2.3 million at SLU. ISU paying Schertz $365k per year. All about the money for coach and does the program have NIL cash. I’m guessing SLU has more NIL money for players too if they can pay a coach $2M more than ISU is paying. I don't know for sure but I'd bet Indiana St. has a much larger alumni base. The question is, does this NIT run and the associated NCAA snub inspire them to toss some cash at Terre Haute. The baseball team is probably good enough again to make Omaha. So I don't know if St. Louis has more NIL money. I always thought of them as being like DePaul -- a private school in a city that probably only cares about the Cardinals and maybe whatever Mizzou ever did. That's marginally related to Schertz, who isn't suddenly going to get $20,000 paychecks every month. If he considers himself a program builder, he's going to take the next leap up, and the A-10 isn't necessarily that.
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Post by aceloverlarry on Mar 27, 2024 9:33:24 GMT -6
Travis Ford was making $2.3 million at SLU. ISU paying Schertz $365k per year. All about the money for coach and does the program have NIL cash. I’m guessing SLU has more NIL money for players too if they can pay a coach $2M more than ISU is paying. I don't know for sure but I'd bet Indiana St. has a much larger alumni base. The question is, does this NIT run and the associated NCAA snub inspire them to toss some cash at Terre Haute. The baseball team is probably good enough again to make Omaha. So I don't know if St. Louis has more NIL money. I always thought of them as being like DePaul -- a private school in a city that probably only cares about the Cardinals and maybe whatever Mizzou ever did. That's marginally related to Schertz, who isn't suddenly going to get $20,000 paychecks every month. If he considers himself a program builder, he's going to take the next leap up, and the A-10 isn't necessarily that. SLU and ISU have historically similar enrollment numbers, so I’d assume the alumni bases are about the same. You’re right most of St Louis cares far more about the Cardinals and Mizzou than SLU, but I’d bet the majority of ISUs alumni base cares more about IU and Purdue than they do the sycamores. Obviously that’s changed this year with their great team, but their historic atrendance numbers tell me there’s about 4,000 people that are going to go back to being more invested in the Hoosiers and Boilermakers once Schertz leaves. Both programs need good teams to fully capture the attention of their fanbase, and if Schertz wins in SLU like he did this year, he’ll have a much bigger market to draw casual fans from. No doubt in my mind they will have Chaiffetz close to sold out next year if he brings his team with him. They already have a much larger NIL base than ISU, and Schertz winning immediately is only going to increase that. My guess is he goes to SLU, takes his team with him, immediately competes for an A10 championship and makes the tourney, and then moves on to an elite job in 1-2 years.
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Post by aces44 on Mar 27, 2024 11:17:39 GMT -6
Scott Nagy is a good fit at SIU
It didn’t get easier for the Aces today
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Post by 65pointgame on Mar 27, 2024 11:17:52 GMT -6
SLU is probably in a market that closer resembles Creighton/Omaha or Gonzaga/Spokane more than it does DePaul/Chicago. Chicago is a Big Ten town or pro basketball/sports. In the St. Louis market you have the Cardinals and the Blues, but no pro basketball. Lindenwood, Wash U, and the pharmacist offer some b-ball, but let's be real here. 1.4 billion endowment tells me there are some deep pockets and if the product is on the floor, then the money will be spent.
I would venture that conversations with a potential HC have included the goal is to be in the Big East. Geographically that would give the conference 6 schools in the East and 6 in the Midwest. Much better for non-rev sports.
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