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Post by austinace on Apr 2, 2021 4:07:00 GMT -6
So Who is Evansville Big man coach? My guess would be Brandon Crone. Can someone confirm?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2021 8:48:54 GMT -6
Reading over some of this crap about "Coronabros" which is obviously not aimed at the 600,000 people who died of a common cold this winter, or "the left," which has finally been identified as a dog whistle ... and why this person or that person is being mean, sarcastic or derogatory, finally about how potential recruits might be turned off by all this --
Maybe we should take a closer look at what we type before we hit the "create post" button down there on the right. Because the replies are often related to the comments that are generated.
First off, virtually nobody who isn't attached to the forum culture is reading this. Most of the world has long ago abandoned this form of communication. NOT. SO. WE. NOTICED. Virtually everyone on this board, based on the comments I glean, is over 50. ZERO high school senior gives a **** about us or what we believe.
So this is about maturity. I try to strive for that in my comments, at least making a vague attempt to correct my spelling errors before I READ IT TWICE. If I don't like where it's headed, I delete it and either start over or do something different with my day. Simple. At times, I argue or point out a flaw in someone's reply. In most cases, I am comfortable that I am either right or close enough that it will invite a sensible dialogue.
The word "sensible" gets lost when we refer to people as "leftists" or "Coronabros" -- and I think it's clear where that came from. If you want my 8-second description of politics: Almost every disparaging remark about how we "voted" is about being hateful. The vast majority of people who wish to discuss it know virtually nothing about politics but they've learned how to insult everybody and see which blob of **** surfaces. If you don't truly care about politics, stop trying to anger people up about it.
There is room in the world for topics that marginally connect to college basketball, and some of them are about the public health. Or community spirit.
Next, we need to stop pretending we are the Godfather of all things relating to the players, young men who are guided by spirits and dreams we can't envision. Without bringing a whole basketful of social discourse to this point, there are fairly obvious traits to most of the players involved here and if we haven't been paying attention, the future they see is vastly different than the one an 18-year-old white kid from Brookville, Indiana, saw in 1965. (That was me and the descriptive adjective is intentional.)
I am going on at length here, as though I am the Guiding Light for this forum and social commentary. I am not even the smartest person in my own house. I just have opinions like everyone. This has mostly been about Purple Whiskers, with whom some remember I was at war with myself on the other board. He ran me off of it. I came back and reached out to learn his world, just a little. There is a voice there, a point of view and it's doing exactly what it is supposed to be doing -- make us think, respond and come to a conclusion about the points we make.
I don't agree with PW a lot of the time but the exchanges are lively. Hell, it's free fun!
This forum is not even close to the most important part of my life and in seeing how college basketball as I love it has been neutered by the "committee at headquarters," I wonder why I bother. But it's fun to live in a world where the Spirit of Jim Crews and Larry Humes exist. I get an enormous feeling of pride when I get the chance to talk about the night at Roberts when 11,000 were there against Saint Joe. Folks listen with their mouths open if you tell that story right.
So that's all I have. I hope I didn't make myself sound important. If I did, it was the first of two mistakes I made today. The other one was ...
(now to read this again before I decide on that button in the lower right.)
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2021 10:29:52 GMT -6
Maybe a little Triggered there but I hear what you are saying.
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Post by aceventura on Apr 2, 2021 15:36:16 GMT -6
So Who is Evansville Big man coach? My guess would be Brandon Crone. Can someone confirm? Brandon Crone I think would have to be our big man coach, and if you ever watched him play, he played with great toughness and savvy. Especially with us being undersized I hope the guys are listening to what he's teaching!
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Post by stennisrm72 on Apr 2, 2021 15:40:11 GMT -6
And now back to our regularly scheduled program .... Preston Phillips, 6'8 PF, Elkhart IN Can we please make this thread about Preston going forward? Or at least relative to his position, skills, et al. PLEASE?
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Post by bleedpurple on Apr 2, 2021 19:08:39 GMT -6
I agree! This seems to happen on a lot of the threads - posters are enamored with their knowledge and opinions and go to great lengths to convince.
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Post by aceventura on Apr 3, 2021 7:33:43 GMT -6
Interesting thing I noticed. I think all of us on here would be thrilled to have Jack Nunge join us. I looked at his recruiting from high school and this was listed under his athletic background.
Jack Nunge is a 6-9, 185-pound Power Forward from Newburgh, IN.
Not very beefy either.
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Post by stennisrm72 on Apr 3, 2021 7:48:37 GMT -6
Interesting thing I noticed. I think all of us on here would be thrilled to have Jack Nunge join us. I looked at his recruiting from high school and this was listed under his athletic background. Jack Nunge is a 6-9, 185-pound Power Forward from Newburgh, IN. Not very beefy either. Nice comparison. The point was made somewhere earlier in this thread, or perhaps another thread, that these kids will really develop when exposed to D1 level strength training and nutrition. Another good example of this is Gage Bobe. He put some guns on last summer.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2021 8:25:26 GMT -6
It has been my experience as an Aces fan of many years, that since they made the jump to Division 1 the "bigs" Evansville recruits take time to develop. That should not be hard for anyone to figure out. I can only name off a few who made a sizable slash their first year. Nunge had 6 power schools offer him his senior season. These types of recruits are essentially ready to step in sooner than latter. Preston Phillips would seem to have some good tools to work with, and would have stood a chance to get a few more offers his way had he not opted for UE at this time. He will be a guy that will be interesting to see. Traditionally, at UE and other mid majors, you really never know how your bigs guys will turn out.
On a side note and a very different topic, it is folly in my estimation to think our forum has any bearing at all on potential recruits and their families. We, as mostly older Evansville diehards, are in our own little community where we are passionate about the Aces. For the very few whom "might" even know if we exist, could care less if we think a player has "skinny arms", what we think of the coach, or for that matter, where we think the best pizza place is in Evansville. It's Deerhead by the way!
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Post by E-Villan on Apr 5, 2021 10:10:34 GMT -6
It has been my experience as an Aces fan of many years, that since they made the jump to Division 1 the "bigs" Evansville recruits take time to develop. That should not be hard for anyone to figure out. I can only name off a few who made a sizable slash their first year. Nunge had 6 power schools offer him his senior season. These types of recruits are essentially ready to step in sooner than latter. Preston Phillips would seem to have some good tools to work with, and would have stood a chance to get a few more offers his way had he not opted for UE at this time. He will be a guy that will be interesting to see. Traditionally, at UE and other mid majors, you really never know how your bigs guys will turn out. On a side note and a very different topic, it is folly in my estimation to think our forum has any bearing at all on potential recruits and their families. We, as mostly older Evansville diehards, are in our own little community where we are passionate about the Aces. For the very few whom "might" even know if we exist, could care less if we think a player has "skinny arms", what we think of the coach, or for that matter, where we think the best pizza place is in Evansville. It's Deerhead by the way! Agreed. I check out a lot of various message boards, and I can tell you, ours is one of the most active in the MVC, and one of the tamest. Do you guys really think a recruit is going to make life altering decisions due to some anonymous goofball on a random fanboard saying he has skinny arms?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2021 12:24:16 GMT -6
It has been my experience as an Aces fan of many years, that since they made the jump to Division 1 the "bigs" Evansville recruits take time to develop. That should not be hard for anyone to figure out. I can only name off a few who made a sizable slash their first year. Nunge had 6 power schools offer him his senior season. These types of recruits are essentially ready to step in sooner than latter. Preston Phillips would seem to have some good tools to work with, and would have stood a chance to get a few more offers his way had he not opted for UE at this time. He will be a guy that will be interesting to see. Traditionally, at UE and other mid majors, you really never know how your bigs guys will turn out. On a side note and a very different topic, it is folly in my estimation to think our forum has any bearing at all on potential recruits and their families. We, as mostly older Evansville diehards, are in our own little community where we are passionate about the Aces. For the very few whom "might" even know if we exist, could care less if we think a player has "skinny arms", what we think of the coach, or for that matter, where we think the best pizza place is in Evansville. It's Deerhead by the way! Agreed. I check out a lot of various message boards, and I can tell you, ours is one of the most active in the MVC, and one of the tamest. Do you guys really think a recruit is going to make life altering decisions due to some anonymous goofball on a random fanboard saying he has skinny arms? You tell 'em! But maybe they will make a life altering decision due to some anonymous goofball on the same random fan board comparing them to Kevin Durant. The next Kevin Durant might de-commit and wait for a better offer.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2021 12:29:20 GMT -6
I agree! This seems to happen on a lot of the threads - posters are enamored with their knowledge and opinions and go to great lengths to convince. I think I know who you are referring to. db1972? I can't blame you for not being enamored of your knowledge and opinions. It's quite noble and refreshing.
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Post by aceventura on Apr 5, 2021 12:37:56 GMT -6
Agreed. I check out a lot of various message boards, and I can tell you, ours is one of the most active in the MVC, and one of the tamest. Do you guys really think a recruit is going to make life altering decisions due to some anonymous goofball on a random fanboard saying he has skinny arms? You tell 'em! But maybe they will make a life altering decision due to some anonymous goofball on the same random fan board comparing them to Kevin Durant. The next Kevin Durant might de-commit and wait for a better offer. If I'm going to error on one side or the other, I'm going to error on the side of being level-headed/responsible, optimistic, thoughtful and respectful in my posts, just in case an athlete or a parent does read our board. It's one thing if we were at a different point in time with our current team and our current staff and there weren't reasons to be optimistic, but I feel very optimistic about our future under TL and staff. And with how active everyone in our culture today is on the internet, I really do think that players and parents look at this board. I'm not a player or a parent so I'm just speculating, I have absolutely no idea truly, but just I think common sense says that more people look on this board than we think, so why not be conscious of that, and if I'm wrong and it's not true, then oh well, we are more respectful as a whole. That was kind of a ramble and I'm too lazy to go back and look over what I typed so hopefully it makes sense lol
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2021 13:16:07 GMT -6
You tell 'em! But maybe they will make a life altering decision due to some anonymous goofball on the same random fan board comparing them to Kevin Durant. The next Kevin Durant might de-commit and wait for a better offer. If I'm going to error on one side or the other, I'm going to error on the side of being level-headed/responsible, optimistic, thoughtful and respectful in my posts, just in case an athlete or a parent does read our board. It's one thing if we were at a different point in time with our current team and our current staff and there weren't reasons to be optimistic, but I feel very optimistic about our future under TL and staff. And with how active everyone in our culture today is on the internet, I really do think that players and parents look at this board. I'm not a player or a parent so I'm just speculating, I have absolutely no idea truly, but just I think common sense says that more people look on this board than we think, so why not be conscious of that, and if I'm wrong and it's not true, then oh well, we are more respectful as a whole. That was kind of a ramble and I'm too lazy to go back and look over what I typed so hopefully it makes sense lol This does make sense. I would only add that I think parents and players are fully aware that not everyone will agree about the value of that player to the future of the program. In Preston's case, with only two D1 offers, the parents probably believe that he was overlooked and that he will excel if given a chance. That may be true. Or it may not. The player may also use the perceived slight as a motivational tool to prove to doubters that they were wrong. Nothing wrong with that. I have heard it said many times, including here, that kids are told how great they are right out of the cradle to build their esteem and that it has made them soft and unprepared for the "real world." I see that as simplistic nonsense but...whatever. The closet self-esteem builders are plentiful here right up to the point where an Ace decides to transfer and becomes selfish and worthless. If the parents are reading this thread they will see that it is near unanimous that Preston is perfect for the program with the only exception being the one E-villan politely refers to as "an anonymous goofball on a random fan board." So on balance, this fan board is pretty much all in on Preston. The parents should be quite pleased.
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Post by bballjunkie on Apr 5, 2021 14:19:29 GMT -6
As a parent of a prospective student athlete, I know that my child and I will definitely be turned off by a fan's message board if they always rip holes in a recruit's game, say the recruits are just leftovers that the Power 5 schools don't want, and/or constantly say their program should consider downgrading conferences/divisions.
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