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Post by thevampire5 on Dec 29, 2023 0:23:47 GMT -6
I hate to be the rumor guy and I hope they aren’t true.. but I heard Ben is injured? Anyone else heard any rumblings? I heard the same. We must have the same source. Does anyone know what kind of injury that Ben has? |
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Post by municup14 on Dec 29, 2023 7:09:54 GMT -6
Question before, does anyone know if Braylon is redshirting or is he injured too.He has been in street clothes the last 2 games.
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Post by aceloverlarry on Dec 29, 2023 8:20:53 GMT -6
I heard the same. We must have the same source. Does anyone know what kind of injury that Ben has? Not sure on specifics but I hear he’s in a boot. |
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Post by Incognito on Dec 29, 2023 9:49:53 GMT -6
It is great to see BartTorvik and KenPom take center stage for discussion! There are a couple things that I would like to add some clarity on to hopefully help people's understanding. Regarding the "Luck" metric, as 65pointgame mentioned, this is calculated entirely separately from the efficiency ratings. Think of it as current winning percentage compared to expected winning percentage. So far we have won every close game (notably Chattanooga and UNI in OT, and UT Martin, Miami OH, and Bellarmine by single digits). Realistically we should probably be 8-4 right now, and that's what "Luck" tries to capture. Regarding game win probabilities, you can add the percentages together to get the projected full season win total (I.e. .1 vs. Cincinnati + .12 vs. Indiana St. + .73 vs. Murray St. + etc.). To calculate the predicted probability of a losing streak of n games, take (1 - the probability of UE winning) multiplied together n times. To reuse with the case above, it would look as follows: (1-.1)*(1-.12)*(1-.73)=21% probability of losing our next 3 games. Using this formula, we are extremely unlikely to lose six in a row at any point during the season, even if we are technically underdogs 6 games in a row. Regarding our current rating, I agree with the sentiments of most in the thread that we are currently still underrated. The systems are set up to only allow a limited amount of movement after any game. Normally this is a great plan to avoid overreacting to one or two bad games by a team, but has its flaws when the initial assessment of a team is grossly incorrect. I mostly chalk this up to the transfer portal as these systems rely heavily on the past season for its preseason predictions, and this is something that should be accounted for in the future. Until then, I will happily continue raking in money betting on overinflated lines for teams that retooled in the portal. Winning close games could be a sign that you are lucky but it could also mean that the team you narrowly beat was lucky to be that close. Math can answer a lot of questions but it can also devolve into math for math's sake. Algorithms and analytics have taken away from the enjoyment of sports entertainment by allowing bits and bytes to become the discussion over the human element. The historically numbers-worshiping MLB has been the biggest loser. I hope they don't start measuring the exit velocity and angle of jump shots and superimposing the graphic over the TV screen until after my cremation. |
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Post by austinace on Dec 29, 2023 9:52:41 GMT -6
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Post by austinace on Dec 29, 2023 10:18:27 GMT -6
If Ben is out Josh and Sekou will likely get more minutes. I see where Sekou and Aziz (UC’s 7’0” center) were both freshmen on Akron’s 2021-2022 roster. Although I think Aziz was a year ahead (redshirt freshman): gozips.com/sports/mens-basketball/roster/2021-22 |
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Post by aceschamps6571 on Dec 29, 2023 10:22:53 GMT -6
I heard the same. We must have the same source. Does anyone know what kind of injury that Ben has? One would think that a reporter whose assignment is "covering" the team, would have addressed that in the article this morning. That article told us nothing that wasn't already known, and failed to mention the most important question on the minds of Aces fans- what is Ben's status going forward? If he's out for any length of time, that greatly affects the near future of this team- and it wasn't even mentioned. This article could have been pre written days ago and sent in from anywhere. |
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Post by aceschamps6571 on Dec 29, 2023 10:28:55 GMT -6
To add to my previous post, without it being mentioned in the article, the majority of Aces fans may not even know that Ben Humrichous is injured. That is something that fans who care about the team would like to know. I myself only found out through this message board.
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Post by aceloverlarry on Dec 29, 2023 10:38:28 GMT -6
Does anyone know what kind of injury that Ben has? One would think that a reporter whose assignment is "covering" the team, would have addressed that in the article this morning. That article told us nothing that wasn't already known, and failed to mention the most important question on the minds of Aces fans- what is Ben's status going forward? If he's out for any length of time, that greatly affects the near future of this team- and it wasn't even mentioned. This article could have been pre written days ago and sent in from anywhere. I’m sure Anthony reads the board and is aware of the speculation, but without UE issuing a press release or Ben commenting on the record about it, he can’t really formally comment on it. I’m sure UE doesn’t want the info out there publicly yet, and they likely asked him not to comment on it when he inquired about it. It probably won’t be addressed until Anthony is in the stadium pregame and tweets that Ben is not participating in warmups. I also doubt we get any sort of timeline from UE once the information is out there publicly. I’m sure it will be a he’s “day to day” type injury until he comes back. |
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Post by E-Villan on Dec 29, 2023 11:08:12 GMT -6
Larry is right that at this point, it is out of Anthony's hands. He can only report on the info he is provided. I agree that IF and I use IF since so far this is only a rumor being posted on here, they are probably wanting to play it close to the vest as long as they can. No need to tip off your hand to your opponent until necessary. Of course, if Cincinnati reads this board, it may be too late.
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Post by austinace on Dec 29, 2023 11:51:34 GMT -6
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Post by ATP on Dec 29, 2023 12:13:15 GMT -6
One would think that a reporter whose assignment is "covering" the team, would have addressed that in the article this morning. That article told us nothing that wasn't already known, and failed to mention the most important question on the minds of Aces fans- what is Ben's status going forward? If he's out for any length of time, that greatly affects the near future of this team- and it wasn't even mentioned. This article could have been pre written days ago and sent in from anywhere. I’m sure Anthony reads the board and is aware of the speculation, but without UE issuing a press release or Ben commenting on the record about it, he can’t really formally comment on it. I’m sure UE doesn’t want the info out there publicly yet, and they likely asked him not to comment on it when he inquired about it. It probably won’t be addressed until Anthony is in the stadium pregame and tweets that Ben is not participating in warmups. I also doubt we get any sort of timeline from UE once the information is out there publicly. I’m sure it will be a he’s “day to day” type injury until he comes back. Yes he can comment on it. He isn't beholden to any b.s. UE official announcement. If a player is injured, he can say that. UE conversely isn't required to tell us anything -- but it's sometimes bad form when they don't. They expect fans to be engaged financially and emotionally. It's not good policy to ignore that. But if the standard belief is that the Courier is hamstrung by official policy, there's a standard called "First Amendment," which comes ahead of the "Second" one. If Ragland thinks he gains an advantage by keeping this secret, bully for him. |
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Post by aceloverlarry on Dec 29, 2023 12:19:44 GMT -6
I’m sure Anthony reads the board and is aware of the speculation, but without UE issuing a press release or Ben commenting on the record about it, he can’t really formally comment on it. I’m sure UE doesn’t want the info out there publicly yet, and they likely asked him not to comment on it when he inquired about it. It probably won’t be addressed until Anthony is in the stadium pregame and tweets that Ben is not participating in warmups. I also doubt we get any sort of timeline from UE once the information is out there publicly. I’m sure it will be a he’s “day to day” type injury until he comes back. Yes he can comment on it. He isn't beholden to any b.s. UE official announcement. If a player is injured, he can say that. UE conversely isn't required to tell us anything -- but it's sometimes bad form when they don't. They expect fans to be engaged financially and emotionally. It's not good policy to ignore that. But if the standard belief is that the Courier is hamstrung by official policy, there's a standard called "First Amendment," which comes ahead of the "Second" one. If Ragland thinks he gains an advantage by keeping this secret, bully for him. Yeah, I guess he could comment on it, but putting a note in the article saying “There are rumors on the fan message board that Ben Humrichous may be facing an injury” without any credible source willing to confirm it for him would just be bad journalism. It would also probably piss off Ragland and the athletic department. Whether we agree with their approach or not is a whole different debate, but don’t bite the hand that feeds you if you’re the C&P based on a few guys on a message board. |
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Post by klinky on Dec 29, 2023 12:30:40 GMT -6
On one recent social media post, from practice in Cincy, it appears Ben can be seen sitting with a black boot on his right foot.
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Post by 83Ace on Dec 29, 2023 12:43:03 GMT -6
A newspaper can’t report on something without confirming it is actually true. That’s journalism 101, and that separates actual new outlets from a bunch of guys on the internet. Unless UE confirms it, Anthony can’t write it. Beyond that, the story was no doubt written before we read the rumors on the board.
This does highlight a difference between pro and college sports. If we were a pro team, we would have to list players as day to day or doubtful or out for the game.
I will say that through multiple coaches and administrations, we have never been especially forthcoming about this kind of thing - including whether a player is redshirting.
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