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Post by ATP on Feb 22, 2024 15:58:18 GMT -6
NIL by definition is supposed to pay athletes whose names, images, likenesses are used to promote products, which could include a lot of things. Chuck Bailey drives a Kenny Kent Chevy and eats at Pizza Hut ... If they are just paying these guys to play, then the NCAA has literally become its own worst problem. If they put an athlete's name on a poster to boost ticket sales, that's essentially NIL. It could also be part of a tradeoff for getting a full scholarship. Capitalism is a nice idea for rich people.
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Feb 23, 2024 17:58:31 GMT -6
Post by ATP on Feb 23, 2024 17:58:31 GMT -6
I was looking up some stats and came across a link to one of the Georgia players. Interesting links as underlined in magenta.
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Feb 24, 2024 3:30:43 GMT -6
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Post by austinace on Feb 24, 2024 3:30:43 GMT -6
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Feb 24, 2024 7:59:25 GMT -6
Post by ATP on Feb 24, 2024 7:59:25 GMT -6
This is pivotal, because the NCAA can argue that schools agreed to those bylaws when they joined the organization. That would be easy enough to prove. So the schools will now find that as a useful portal for leaving the NCAA and forming their own organization. The programs that choose to remain can be punished by the NCAA for playing games against non-members. Meaning, a very large number of programs need to leave the NCAA at the same time -- and I wonder if they will take their tennis teams along with them. If this injunction is made permanent, we can hope for guys like Tyler Myers to lead the team in scoring. I also don't see that NIL doesn't impact D-2 programs. We just don't pay attention to that. NCAA was run by ivory tower dingbats for 80 years. What went around, came back around. It is interesting that the story talks about how the players didn't get a cut of the NCAA men's tournament. If the NCAA no longer exists, will people tune in to watch the tournament that the attorneys-general are including in this story? Chicken-vs.-egg? The attorneys general of Tennessee and Virginia argued that the NCAA is illegally restricting opportunities for student-athletes by preventing them from negotiating the terms of NIL deals prior to deciding where they want to go school. The lawsuit was filed Jan. 31, one day after University of Tennessee chancellor Donde Plowman revealed in a letter to the NCAA that the school's athletic department was being investigated for potential recruiting rules violations.
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Feb 29, 2024 20:57:11 GMT -6
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Post by austinace on Feb 29, 2024 20:57:11 GMT -6
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Mar 1, 2024 21:12:45 GMT -6
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Post by austinace on Mar 1, 2024 21:12:45 GMT -6
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Post by Ace78 on Mar 12, 2024 21:20:08 GMT -6
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Mar 13, 2024 9:59:54 GMT -6
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Post by tjwx4 on Mar 13, 2024 9:59:54 GMT -6
I am an NIL novice. Do players sign NIL contracts? For example if a player gets paid to advertise say Turonis pizza does he have a contract or is it if you do 6 commercials we willl pay you $$$. What happens if a player transfers your not going to show a commercial with a kid who no longer plays for a local university?
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Mar 13, 2024 10:16:37 GMT -6
Post by ATP on Mar 13, 2024 10:16:37 GMT -6
I am an NIL novice. Do players sign NIL contracts? For example if a player gets paid to advertise say Turonis pizza does he have a contract or is it if you do 6 commercials we willl pay you $$$. What happens if a player transfers your not going to show a commercial with a kid who no longer plays for a local university? Some interesting points to this, and I wonder how it plays out. If you think it's not complicated, just wait. It gets more complicated. To that end, the NCAA is showing it has no control over how these players are "paid" and it's going to be up to the conferences to regulate it. Regulating it is economic suicide if you want to keep getting good players and solid sponsors. In time, the NCAA will be regulating people who have nothing to gain by breaking the rules. The rules are: If you don't like the rules, change the rules. But yeah, superstars like Caitlin Clark are profiting because of her time at Iowa. Iowa will want to make sure they get paid too.
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Post by Aces&Eights on Mar 13, 2024 10:35:56 GMT -6
Iowa got paid hand and fist in attendance alone. The season (2019-2020) before Clark arrived Iowa's women average attendance was 7100 per home game. Her freshman season was the Covid games with 310 people allowed in the arena. Sophomore season 8225, junior season 11150, and this season 15000.
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Mar 13, 2024 11:00:38 GMT -6
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Post by stlscooter on Mar 13, 2024 11:00:38 GMT -6
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Post by aces44 on Mar 13, 2024 11:36:16 GMT -6
The mask is off Universities are running Professional Franchises. The secret is out. Paying players that can be Free Agents every year. Run by Educators with Tenure. What could possibly go wrong This isn’t an investable asset folks.
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Mar 13, 2024 12:04:31 GMT -6
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Post by aceshigh on Mar 13, 2024 12:04:31 GMT -6
I’m beginning to wonder where all this is going. Dartmouth mens basketball has voted to unionize, players are being paid to make advertising commercials, appearance fees and the list keeps expanding. Now we are hearing about new super tournaments paying out large amounts as participation fees. We have had guaranteed contracts for home games at various schools. Are we to see entire schedules that are negotiated contracts between schools?
We seem to be marching towards colleges fielding professional teams of employees vs student athletes. How much influence will the current professional leagues such as the NBA and NFL have over college sports? Will there even be college sports in the future?
Maybe this is all nothing more than worry about what might happen and not actuality. College athletes need spending money as do most students. Non athletes can get jobs to provide them money. Unless rules have changed in recent years athletes have hoops to jump through to get a job. My son who was a D-1 athlete had to get approval from his Athletic Department to get a job at a Mall retailer.
Bottom line is I’m in Favor of NILs for athletes as long as it doesn’t get out of hand.
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Mar 13, 2024 12:09:24 GMT -6
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Post by aces44 on Mar 13, 2024 12:09:24 GMT -6
I’m beginning to wonder where all this is going. Dartmouth mens basketball has voted to unionize, players are being paid to make advertising commercials, appearance fees and the list keeps expanding. Now we are hearing about new super tournaments paying out large amounts as participation fees. We have had guaranteed contracts for home games at various schools. Are we to see entire schedules that are negotiated contracts between schools? We seem to be marching towards colleges fielding professional teams of employees vs student athletes. How much influence will the current professional leagues such as the NBA and NFL have over college sports? Will there even be college sports in the future? Maybe this is all nothing more than worry about what might happen and not actuality. College athletes need spending money as do most students. Non athletes can get jobs to provide them money. Unless rules have changed in recent years athletes have hoops to jump through to get a job. My son who was a D-1 athlete had to get approval from his Athletic Department to get a job at a Mall retailer. Bottom line is I’m in Favor of NILs for athletes as long as it doesn’t get out of hand. Don’t worry Competitive Sports will never get Out of Hand…. LOL
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Mar 13, 2024 13:02:40 GMT -6
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Post by aceshigh on Mar 13, 2024 13:02:40 GMT -6
Sort of like getting the government involved to make things better.
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