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Post by thevampire5 on Jan 28, 2020 13:03:27 GMT -6
I am not sure if I can add anything more to what has been written in support of hiring Coach Todd. He checks all the boxes for me. So much so, had he been a finalist for the UE job when UE was first searching for a new head coach, I would have chosen him over WM. Certainly, I did support the hire of Walter when he was named. My biggest concern for him was I was not sure how his NBA experience would translate to a small private school, and knowing it would probably take time for him to develop as a bench coach. Hiring a new coach, IMO> has to do with hiring a guy at the right place, at the right time. If it can calm anyone who has a lot of doubts, do know our conference has a coach who came to his school with a whole lot less impressive resume than the coach we just hired. But he was a guy who played at a private university, knew how to relate to players, and was very familiar with the land scape where we would be coming. This coach understood what it would take to move things forward. I am speaking of course, of Porter Moser. People can say all they want about this man, but what he has done for Loyola has been nothing short of spectacular. Porter was the right man at the right time for Loyola. I believe Coach TL is the right guy for UE at this present time and into the immediate future. I agree 110% I also would had hired Todd Lickliter over McCarthy. I'm So Excited About The Future Of Aces BB.
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Post by thevampire5 on Jan 28, 2020 13:06:19 GMT -6
The, H.E.S. Junta, is still alive & well, I see. Just wonder if the H.E.M Cabal will be as strong, in two years? I am a true "homer" and try to attend a third or more of their total games a season, regardless who's coaching. I don't have near as much invested in the university ( monetary or emotionally) as most in here. But, as much a fan of The ACES basketball as most. Could post stats all day about this team, that team, his record, those years, "N or C" tournaments. Bottom line. We're all here for same reason. We're ACES fans. But, now.....let's look forward. Be positive. ACES basketball has become, "The Era of Lickliter". I, personally, changed trains at the last station and am on The Todd Train, now. "All Aboard" go aces Only if the Todd Train is less Title IX’y than the Walter Train. Couteau....ABSOLUTELY and Well Said!! TOOT TOOT LET'S GO ACES TRAIN!!
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Post by municup14 on Jan 28, 2020 17:25:59 GMT -6
We all are die hard Aces fans and we want OUR TEAM to be successful,don't care who the coach is.But, everybody knows that UE is a HARD PLACE TO RECRUIT PLAYERS.All previous coaches have stated this fact.All we can do is support our aces athletic programs and hope for the best. Go Aces
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Post by acescott on Jan 28, 2020 20:15:06 GMT -6
Only time will tell if hiring Todd Lickliter was a good decision, as is the case with any coach anywhere. I've had the privilege to have met most of the coaches over the last 2 years. TL, Graves, Walter, baumann, TC and Bennie Seltzer. I can say all the above were very nice and seemed perfectly happy and willing to take the time to talk with me even in busy settings with a lot of people around also wanting to meet with them, with the possible exception of Walter, who didn't make eye contact and was moving on quickly as he surveyed the room. Reminisced with TL about the wild UE at Butler game from early 90s that had a million fouls, free throws and overall points. He's a good guy who seems genuinely happy to be here. He has my support.
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Post by E-Villan on Jan 28, 2020 21:54:38 GMT -6
We all are die hard Aces fans and we want OUR TEAM to be successful,don't care who the coach is.But, everybody knows that UE is a HARD PLACE TO RECRUIT PLAYERS.All previous coaches have stated this fact.All we can do is support our aces athletic programs and hope for the best. Go Aces I think this is more an excuse tied to the mediocrity of the ex-ex coach. McCarty didn't appear to have trouble beating out some pretty solid schools for Sam and DeAndre. To me, this is nothing but excuse-making. I would be curious as to the merits of that thought. Maybe at one time, but I am not sure where we would fall short of our conference brethren other than a recent winning culture. We're not the only small, private school in the league, and Evansville compares well to the better cities in the conference...Chicago obviously being one of itself. If you are going to say big, exciting cities have advantages on recruiting, then Loyola would have had more than one NCAA bid in the last 35 years..especially considering most of them were in the Horizon. I have been to every MVC city except Des Moines, and I have heard it is a nice city. IMO, UNI would be far and away the hardest place to recruit in the league, and they have been very consistent with Jacobson. Clear evidence a winning culture trumps all. You really think if Valpo and us are going after the same recruit, and he gets to experience a game at the Ford, tour our on-campus facilities, then take a game and tour up there we are still at a disadvantage? Edited: I am going to add this quote from Lickliter that was in Chad's mailbag column: Here's Lickliter on recruiting: “We’ll recruit consistently every day. Our coaches have been recruiting and the nice thing is you recruit to the university, to the city, to the tradition and none of that’s changed. I think we have a really wonderful product to sell and our fans are second to none."I think this is true, and frankly, if we have a coach who doesn't feel this way, then we have the wrong guy. You can't sell something you don't believe.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2020 12:35:32 GMT -6
Someone makes a purple T shirt, "I'm on the T-liter train" I'll buy a couple.
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Post by 83Ace on Jan 29, 2020 13:33:52 GMT -6
We all are die hard Aces fans and we want OUR TEAM to be successful,don't care who the coach is.But, everybody knows that UE is a HARD PLACE TO RECRUIT PLAYERS.All previous coaches have stated this fact.All we can do is support our aces athletic programs and hope for the best. Go Aces I think this is more an excuse tied to the mediocrity of the ex-ex coach. McCarty didn't appear to have trouble beating out some pretty solid schools for Sam and DeAndre. To me, this is nothing but excuse-making. I would be curious as to the merits of that thought. Maybe at one time, but I am not sure where we would fall short of our conference brethren other than a recent winning culture. We're not the only small, private school in the league, and Evansville compares well to the better cities in the conference...Chicago obviously being one of itself. If you are going to say big, exciting cities have advantages on recruiting, then Loyola would have had more than one NCAA bid in the last 35 years..especially considering most of them were in the Horizon. I have been to every MVC city except Des Moines, and I have heard it is a nice city. IMO, UNI would be far and away the hardest place to recruit in the league, and they have been very consistent with Jacobson. Clear evidence a winning culture trumps all. You really think if Valpo and us are going after the same recruit, and he gets to experience a game at the Ford, tour our on-campus facilities, then take a game and tour up there we are still at a disadvantage? Edited: I am going to add this quote from Lickliter that was in Chad's mailbag column: Here's Lickliter on recruiting: “We’ll recruit consistently every day. Our coaches have been recruiting and the nice thing is you recruit to the university, to the city, to the tradition and none of that’s changed. I think we have a really wonderful product to sell and our fans are second to none."I think this is true, and frankly, if we have a coach who doesn't feel this way, then we have the wrong guy. You can't sell something you don't believe. I'm with you on this - it has always bothered me when somebody has said it is hard to recruit to Evansville. I have been to every MVC city except for Valparaiso (although I have driven within a few miles of there). I would take Evansville over Terre Haute or Carbondale or Peoria for sure, and as you say, outside of Chicago none of the MVC cities just scream excitement.
My daughter went to UNI - when we went for a visit, it was maybe 15 degrees with frozen fog. Just a dismal day. She wound up going there anyway and loved it. The city a school is in is not the biggest factor. Another complaint we have heard in the past is that our academic standards make it hard to recruit. We are no different then Drake, Bradley, Valpo, Loyola, Butler, Creighton, Xavier, St. Louis, Belmont, or a lot of other private schools with decent academic reputations in that regard. Just another excuse. What is attractive to recruits, I think, is a good fit, a chance to have success, a positive culture around the program (including facilities, fans, etc.) and probably most important, connections with the coaching staff and players. All of that can happen in Evansville.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2020 8:35:40 GMT -6
I don't know if college kids are recruited by 'cities' these days. Maybe 30 years ago. They are about campus, which is where they spend most of their time. I live in Valparaiso and can't see how any teenaged athlete would find it interesting. If you are 35 with couple of small kids, or just like it quiet within an hour of Chicago, it's great.
I also lived in Evansville many years ago and found it to be a quite diverse city. If I had to pick one, I don't know if I could. I would not move back to Evansville. For basketball......... the Valley is one of the most successful in terms of fan support. You look around at some of the games on ESPN network and there are plenty of empty gyms during many of the game. Valley games -- big crowds. And nice television presence too.
To that end, most students do indeed have some approach toward their education. There's a lot more going on than "gee, can I get drafted by the Lakers in June?" If it was that easy to recruit, you'd pick your 10 guys every year and print playoff tickets. You get one or two decent-to-very good guys and hope it's enough in the Valley.
UE won't be left out of the recruiting but they need some players they haven't gotten in the past couple of years. Sometimes you need luck for that. The European playground is probably the best bet and we have no idea about those guys.
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Post by municup14 on Jan 30, 2020 11:34:02 GMT -6
Dick Walters,and Jim Crews said Evansville is a hard school to recruit to.So I'll take there word
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Post by ytele on Jan 30, 2020 11:37:36 GMT -6
Dick Walters,and Jim Crews said Evansville is a hard school to recruit to.So I'll take there word Wouldn't that only lend credence to the idea that maybe 20-30+ years ago that was probably true? I don't know that it's nearly as true today.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2020 13:32:41 GMT -6
Recruiting many times comes down to what a kid is looking for, and how well a coach can sell the positives that surround their program. No...not every kid would want to come to Evansville....but on the other spectrum, Evansville should never have any problems filling up a roster like our former ex ex coach. As far as I am concerned I see a lot of good reasons for coming to our team...the small mindedness of some of short changing Evansville basketball can be mind boggling.
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