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Post by E-Villan on Jan 2, 2024 11:02:43 GMT -6
Put me in the not a fan of the white out category. It does seem silly to do it against what is our best road draw of the year. White isn't a common shirt color, especially in warmer attire, which we will need Saturday.
My light gray sweatshirt is as close as I am getting.
Now the Maxey's Billiard Parlor towels on the other hand...would waive those proudly.
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Post by Incognito on Jan 2, 2024 11:59:52 GMT -6
The way these white-out things work is in the mind of the college sophomore who suggested it because the people in charge can say, "wow what a great idea!" It doesn't have to BE a great idea, but it keeps them from having to call somebody to actually put some effort into a promotion. The orange or purple (or white) hand towel giveaway would be an excellent idea, even if the towel advertises Maxey's Billiards Parlor. Of course, that would require somebody actually going out and getting that job done. "Wow what a great idea. Let's do that next year if we think of it. Just envision, 8,000 fans all waving a towel to the Englebert song!" All that aside, the 21st century basketball fan is not the same fan who inhabited the fieldhouse in 1965. I mean, we have 18 grinning cheerleaders now clogging up the end zone of the court and if they actually do anything but squeal and wave their poms, I don't know who notices. But they all grin well. One thing you won't see is the UE Dance Team perform at halftime. They are extinct and if that doesn't tell you how tight the budget is I don't know what would.
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Post by ATP on Jan 2, 2024 12:27:21 GMT -6
All that aside, the 21st century basketball fan is not the same fan who inhabited the fieldhouse in 1965. I mean, we have 18 grinning cheerleaders now clogging up the end zone of the court and if they actually do anything but squeal and wave their poms, I don't know who notices. But they all grin well. One thing you won't see is the UE Dance Team perform at halftime. They are extinct and if that doesn't tell you how tight the budget is I don't know what would. There are some budget cuts that would help, but I guess dance teams and cheerleaders are harmless distractions. I honestly wonder why all the girls look alike and why they are all girls.
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Post by E-Villan on Jan 2, 2024 12:33:32 GMT -6
The way these white-out things work is in the mind of the college sophomore who suggested it because the people in charge can say, "wow what a great idea!" It doesn't have to BE a great idea, but it keeps them from having to call somebody to actually put some effort into a promotion. The orange or purple (or white) hand towel giveaway would be an excellent idea, even if the towel advertises Maxey's Billiards Parlor. Of course, that would require somebody actually going out and getting that job done. "Wow what a great idea. Let's do that next year if we think of it. Just envision, 8,000 fans all waving a towel to the Englebert song!" All that aside, the 21st century basketball fan is not the same fan who inhabited the fieldhouse in 1965. I mean, we have 18 grinning cheerleaders now clogging up the end zone of the court and if they actually do anything but squeal and wave their poms, I don't know who notices. But they all grin well. One thing you won't see is the UE Dance Team perform at halftime. They are extinct and if that doesn't tell you how tight the budget is I don't know what would. We got the band back, and no offense to any potential dancers, the band does much more for the game atmosphere than half-time dancers prancing to the latest Taylor Swift song. Most people at half-time are looking at their phones, grabbing a drink or visiting the restroom. Letting 3rd graders play is just as impactful, and a whole lot cheaper. Resources need to be utilized for making the program competitive and ensuring our fans have an atmosphere they want to return to.
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Post by aceloverlarry on Jan 2, 2024 13:02:08 GMT -6
The way these white-out things work is in the mind of the college sophomore who suggested it because the people in charge can say, "wow what a great idea!" It doesn't have to BE a great idea, but it keeps them from having to call somebody to actually put some effort into a promotion. The orange or purple (or white) hand towel giveaway would be an excellent idea, even if the towel advertises Maxey's Billiards Parlor. Of course, that would require somebody actually going out and getting that job done. "Wow what a great idea. Let's do that next year if we think of it. Just envision, 8,000 fans all waving a towel to the Englebert song!" All that aside, the 21st century basketball fan is not the same fan who inhabited the fieldhouse in 1965. I mean, we have 18 grinning cheerleaders now clogging up the end zone of the court and if they actually do anything but squeal and wave their poms, I don't know who notices. But they all grin well. One thing you won't see is the UE Dance Team perform at halftime. They are extinct and if that doesn't tell you how tight the budget is I don't know what would. I’m not sure the extinction of the dance team correlates to budget issues. They’ve had very limited interest in participation from students since I was a student 10 years ago. The final product from the ones that did participate was typically worse than a dance routine you’d see from the local high school dance teams. Just doesn’t make much sense to send 4 girls out there to do an underwhelming routine every game. Their extinction, much like the male cheerleader extinction, is solely related to lack of student interest imo. I guess Ziggy could take it upon himself to try and revive student interest like he did with the pep band, but I’d personally rather watch the random halftime show acts they’ve been doing over a dance team anyways.
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Post by ATP on Jan 2, 2024 13:11:27 GMT -6
Their extinction, much like the male cheerleader extinction, is solely related to lack of student interest imo. I guess Ziggy could take it upon himself to try and revive student interest like he did with the pep band, but I’d personally rather watch the random halftime show acts they’ve been doing over a dance team anyways. I hope the AD has bigger fish to fry than propping up a useless halftime "entertainment" like that.
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Post by Ace78 on Jan 2, 2024 16:02:35 GMT -6
There are plenty of great dance teams from the local high schools that I'm sure would enjoy the opportunity to perform, if the Aces dance team doesn't exist any longer. I thought the recent youth basketball game was very good, and I also enjoyed the Hebron Hoppers doing their jump rope routines.
During the Christmas break, it would have been nice to invite a local HS band (if they were available) to perform while the UE Band was on break. By the way, the UE Pep Band is doing an awesome job performing at the games!
While I'm at it, I really like the starting lineup videos that are being produced! They are always interesting because the audio and video highlights vary from game to game. In the past, you had the same old starting lineup video played throughout the year, and it got old after a while. My compliments to whoever is producing the videos this year!
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Post by 65pointgame on Jan 2, 2024 16:47:58 GMT -6
With the lack of UE students in the student section, I say turn that over to the local high schools for a "spirit" competition. There would be one high school represented at each game, then vote on the top school and the winner comes back for our final home game.
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Post by 83Ace on Jan 2, 2024 17:15:59 GMT -6
I have been to “white out” or “Gold rules” games at Iowa State where there is a T-shirt draped over every seat when you arrive - so that whether you came wearing white or not, you had a white shirt to wear. A few schools started doing this several years back and now for some reason everybody thinks it’s the thing to do. I agree, hardly anybody has a white Aces shirt, I have gray, purple, and orange sweatshirts and t-shirts in various configurations but not a white one. So if they want to do white out, they need to hand out T-shirts at the door.
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Post by municup14 on Jan 2, 2024 17:50:13 GMT -6
We'll be lucky to have 2500 white out fans.To make it easy on the fans I would like to see a basic color scheme. Weekday games dress in purple,weekend games dress in orange,or viceversa.
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Post by aceloverlarry on Jan 2, 2024 18:07:30 GMT -6
I have been to “white out” or “Gold rules” games at Iowa State where there is a T-shirt draped over every seat when you arrive - so that whether you came wearing white or not, you had a white shirt to wear. A few schools started doing this several years back and now for some reason everybody thinks it’s the thing to do. I agree, hardly anybody has a white Aces shirt, I have gray, purple, and orange sweatshirts and t-shirts in various configurations but not a white one. So if they want to do white out, they need to hand out T-shirts at the door. There was one game earlier this year that they randomly did this for. I want to say it was the Ball State game, but there was white shirts draped over the first 7 or 8 rows of the stadium behind the media row. No promotion, so I’m not sure what prompted this, but hopefully they have a sponsor planning on handing out some free Tshirts for this game otherwise it won’t be much of a whiteout.
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Post by Ace78 on Jan 2, 2024 18:58:33 GMT -6
If they are doing a white T-shirt handout, they will have to have a 2XL for me. I'm working on downgrading that to an XL, but I'm not there yet! ... LOL
And regarding that Ball State game with some rows getting those white shirts ... I didn't notice a lot of fans putting those on over what they wore to the game, so it wasn't much of a white-out.
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Post by Incognito on Jan 2, 2024 19:20:34 GMT -6
I truly wasn't trying to stir up the male middle age and beyond purple curmudgeons by pointing out that the Dance Team has left the building. All of you are correct that it isn't essential. Lots of things aren't essential. I'll get to them. I understand that old men don't care about dance teams or Taylor Swift tunes. But. There are more than old men in attendance. Women do like dancing and they were entertained by the Dance Team. My spouse was one of them. How many women (or men) enjoyed it? I can't say but I can say that with some confidence that their numbers were greater, probably much greater, than the number who spend time in the baseline bar or the one above it buying $8 beers. The Aces won national championships and had double the attendance without selling a single beer. Alcohol at games is also unessential to the college basketball experience. ATP is correct about cheerleaders. The game can go on without them, tradition be damned. Further, who needs fight songs? Or a band? How many extra points is a band worth?
Other non-essentials include splashy intro videos that stop being interesting after the second time they are seen as well as tiny bike races, nearly impossible golf putts and 3rd grade scrimmages. And who really needs a giant overhead TV to know the score? Or a Kiss Cam or crowd shots that oddly involves many of the same couples over and over? I'm looking at you Lloyd Winneke. Are they donors and local celebs who "earned" that thrill? Probably. Why wouldn't they be? It's America. I would say that game programs are not essential but those were axed a while back. All in all, the Aces are on the cutting edge of Less-Is-More college basketball entertainment. They are truly trailblazers.
One last word on Taylor Swift tunes. The loyal Lawrence Welk fans from the Arad era are populating the cemeteries. Don't look to them for ticket sales. For good measure, toss in musical icons from the 60s, 70s, and 80s. Keeping a program alive and well into the future means that old fuddy duddys have to yield the right of way. It's a hard pill to swallow but it is good medicine.
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Post by ATP on Jan 2, 2024 21:30:40 GMT -6
One last word on Taylor Swift tunes. The loyal Lawrence Welk fans from the Arad era are populating the cemeteries. Don't look to them for ticket sales. For good measure, toss in musical icons from the 60s, 70s, and 80s. Keeping a program alive and well into the future means that old fuddy duddys have to yield the right of way. It's a hard pill to swallow but it is good medicine. Um ... Taylor Swift songs and Lawrence Welk songs have one thing in common ... well, actually two things in common. Three if you include any Porky Pig interpretations. Anyhow, I think cheerleaders are A-OK, but it would be nice to see them actually, you know ... lead a cheer.
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Post by Incognito on Jan 3, 2024 9:05:44 GMT -6
One last word on Taylor Swift tunes. The loyal Lawrence Welk fans from the Arad era are populating the cemeteries. Don't look to them for ticket sales. For good measure, toss in musical icons from the 60s, 70s, and 80s. Keeping a program alive and well into the future means that old fuddy duddys have to yield the right of way. It's a hard pill to swallow but it is good medicine. Um ... Taylor Swift songs and Lawrence Welk songs have one thing in common ... well, actually two things in common. Three if you include any Porky Pig interpretations. Anyhow, I think cheerleaders are A-OK, but it would be nice to see them actually, you know ... lead a cheer. Responding to cheers cuts into precious cellphone time. Good luck with that. The cheerleaders are also situated closest to the fans with deep enough pockets to afford those center court seats. Those people tend to be prim and proper and could lose social status by raising their voices and getting a hair out of place while being seen on the giant screen above. With empty student section seats on one end and drunks-in-training on the other, cheering opportunities are limited. The loudest fans at Roberts Stadium were in the cheap seat bleachers. That is where Crazy Man patrolled. If he had tried to patrol closer to the floor he wouldn't have acquired a following. He would have been asked to leave. There is another reason why cheerleaders aren't what they once were. I'm not sure how many quadriplegics ago it was, but cheerleaders used to form pyramids and hold up letter cards. In those days it was necessary to have ripped male cheerleaders to lift the perky payload. Between lifts they tapped large plastic cones on the floor for the sake of noise. When cheer gals were grounded the need for barrel-chested he-men ended. Google it. I'm uncertain how you know from your vantage point that cheerleaders don't lead cheers at the Ford Center. ESPN or any other network doesn't show the floor during timeouts. They do show GEICO, Liberty Mutual, Progressive, State Farm, State Farm and State Farm. You need to get out more.
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