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Post by paradeuce on Mar 17, 2024 16:59:39 GMT -6
Ya, now ya know WHY they're called the LOSIERS...if they had as much "HEART" as "ink," they'd be healthy.
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Post by ATP on Mar 17, 2024 17:06:34 GMT -6
My opinion, the selection committee is a bunch of group think idiots. They want Quad 1 wins from mid-majors, yet we always have to go on the ROAD to get those Q1 wins. Everyone knows how hard road wins are to get. Why those on the committee from non-p5 conferences don't advocate more for mid-majors is confounding?? Actually, they do ... they just consider a renegade Florida Atlantic and Gonzaga as mid-majors, or the occasional San Diego State or Loyola. So they meet the minimum standards for getting "their guys" into the event. As much as we say it's not fair and prove that it's not fair, the moneychangers will argue that Indiana State wouldn't win the Big 10. You could argue that it's not the Big 10 they have to beat, it's the team they are matched against in NCAA tournament. The discussion would never even reach a consensus on the size of the backboard. This will happen every year there's a tournament that doesn't include every team in the country.
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Post by paradeuce on Mar 17, 2024 17:18:19 GMT -6
St John's has duplicated IU in refusing to play NIT...who's their HC? LOL Time of year where CREDIBILITY is weaned...
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Post by ad1770 on Mar 17, 2024 17:27:32 GMT -6
St John's has duplicated IU in refusing to play NIT...who's their HC? LOL Time of year where CREDIBILITY is weaned... Memphis is also refusing to play in the NIT.
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Post by austinace on Mar 17, 2024 17:31:21 GMT -6
If seeding were solely based on NET ratings then #29 Indiana State would be an 8 seed matched against 9th seeded Colorado State. Instead ISU-blue gets left out: bracketologists.com/bracket/Update: Even #36 Colorado State (by NET rankings) is in the First Four games. So why does #29 ISU-blue not even make a first four game. Obviously the NET ratings don’t carry that much weight as Indiana State is the highest NET rated team ever not to make the Big Dance. So it has to come down to something like SOS or Quad 1 wins which a P5 team is ALWAYS going to have more opportunities for those types of wins.
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Post by aceschamps6571 on Mar 17, 2024 18:05:36 GMT -6
Sadly, the NIT may be on its last legs. With players who are bound for the NBA, or believe they are, NIL deals to get and the transfer portal, players from power conferences intending to transfer or turn pro are going to opt out of the NIT. When 3 or 4 or more football players opt out of bowl games that aren't in the CFP, their teams still have 75- 80 others to play. When a basketball team has players opting out, that doesn't leave a competitive team. What IU is doing will be normal going forward. With this being the new norm, the tournament may go away soon, which would be a shame. Winning the NIT used to be a big deal.
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Post by aceschamps6571 on Mar 17, 2024 18:08:56 GMT -6
St John's has duplicated IU in refusing to play NIT...who's their HC? LOL Time of year where CREDIBILITY is weaned...
I'm sorry your guys didn't make the Big Dance. I was pulling for them to make it and to make some noise after they got in.
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Post by ATP on Mar 17, 2024 18:15:01 GMT -6
Sadly, the NIT may be on its last legs. With players who are bound for the NBA, or believe they are, NIL deals to get and the transfer portal, players from power conferences intending to transfer or turn pro are going to opt out of the NIT. When 3 or 4 or more football players opt out of bowl games that aren't in the CFP, their teams still have 75- 80 others to play. When a basketball team has players opting out, that doesn't leave a competitive team. What IU is doing will be normal going forward. With this being the new norm, the tournament may go away soon, which would a shame. Winning the NIT used to be a big deal. My hunch is that the NCAA would like nothing better than to dispatch the NIT to the cemetery. They would bump up the field to 72 or 80 teams the first minute after the funeral. Mid-majors would be allowed a couple of more spots and it might end up killing the CBI.
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Post by evilleintentions on Mar 17, 2024 19:06:49 GMT -6
The NCAA is a club and the MVC isn’t in it. SCHUCK them. 6 freaking schools from the Mountain West and 8 from the ACC? WHAT A JOKE!! Unfortunately, it will always be like that unless we hit their pocket book.
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Post by bandwagon fan on Mar 17, 2024 19:27:03 GMT -6
I'd like to see 128 teams. Seed them 1 thru 128. Taking the top 64 and giving them a first-round Home Game. Ticket/TV revenues split 60/40, between the two schools, with host receiving the larger share. Their opponent would be decided by lottery on Selection Sunday. #1 seed might draw #98. The TV suspense would be for the bottom 64 and where they would be traveling to for their opening round, using the old ping-pong balls bouncing around in a big barrel type thing. "The First 64" games could easily be televised and played in three nights Friday thru Sunday. The school's original seeding would dictate their field of 64 destinations. If a #77 knocks off a #14. It's still holding a #77 ranking and will just fall in line in the numerical sequence, when condensing the field to 64. Tournament begins as usual on Thursday.
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Post by ATP on Mar 17, 2024 19:32:59 GMT -6
I'd like to see 128 teams. Seed them 1 thru 128. Taking the top 64 and giving them a first-round Home Game. Ticket/TV revenues split 60/40, between the two schools, with host receiving the larger share. Their opponent would be decided by lottery on Selection Sunday. #1 seed might draw #98. The TV suspense would be for the bottom 64 and where they would be traveling to for their opening round, using the old ping-pong balls bouncing around in a big barrel type thing. "The First 64" games could easily be televised and played in three nights Friday thru Sunday. The school's original seeding would dictate their field of 64 destinations. If a #77 knocks off a #14. It's still holding a #77 ranking and will just fall in line in the numerical sequence, when condensing the field to 64. Tournament begins as usual on Thursday. Interesting twist on a number of ideas. I wonder if the conferences that bellyache so much would be willing to stand aside as their post-season moneymakers are set aside. Some of these tournaments draw flies and others are worth a few million bucks. I think if they scrapped the conference tournaments, they could make it last a month. Of course, as we think about it, we are among 35,000,000 other fans who have a better idea than this lay-mass catering to ESPN.
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Post by austinace on Mar 17, 2024 20:15:26 GMT -6
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Post by ibleedpurple on Mar 17, 2024 20:48:10 GMT -6
St John's has duplicated IU in refusing to play NIT...who's their HC? LOL Time of year where CREDIBILITY is weaned...
I'm sorry your guys didn't make the Big Dance. I was pulling for them to make it and to make some noise after they got in. Agree 100% as this is terrible. Net Rank #29 is the lowest to not get in all time, correct? MVC gets the shaft, AGAIN
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Post by E-Villan on Mar 17, 2024 21:09:07 GMT -6
Man, I can't believe I feel this bad for ISU. Seriously, not only did they get hosed, it is appearing more and more likely Schertz will be taking off somewhere, and probably taking the team with him. No president and an acting AD..who happens to be the ex-wife of the previous coach.
The fans really deserve better. Best season since 1979 only to lose the NCAA bid with a perfect storm of bad luck. This coming just months after their brilliant baseball season was wrecked with the outgoing president refusing to accept a very rare opportunity to host a regional.
We can certainly relate to those kicks below the belt.
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Post by Ace78 on Mar 17, 2024 22:04:26 GMT -6
If seeding were solely based on NET ratings then #29 Indiana State would be an 8 seed matched against 9th seeded Colorado State. Instead ISU-blue gets left out: bracketologists.com/bracket/Update: Even #36 Colorado State (by NET rankings) is in the First Four games. So why does #29 ISU-blue not even make a first four game. Obviously the NET ratings don’t carry that much weight as Indiana State is the highest NET rated team ever not to make the Big Dance. So it has to come down to something like SOS or Quad 1 wins which a P5 team is ALWAYS going to have more opportunities for those types of wins. The criteria for choosing teams is very arbitrary, and certainly impossible to figure out. I always thought the NET ranking was the most important number used by the committee. The selection process is certainly not well defined, and is definitely not a transparent process to teams and their fans. I can't imagine the frustration and disappointment of Indiana State fans right now. They had a great season and should have been in.
After tonight's selection fiasco, why do we even have a NET ranking?? What's the purpose?
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