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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2023 19:14:34 GMT -6
Up 11-3 in the eighth. Looking like we’re going to get another chance at Indiana State tomorrow. Just need to close this one out and get some rest. ATP, who’s are likely pitchers for a potential rematch tomorrow? I suspect they have to use Mccauley but it's Allstaff for the Aces. ISU has a lot of options but none of them are their top 3.
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Post by austinace on May 26, 2023 19:17:34 GMT -6
Aces rolling with plays like this: /mediaViewer?currentTweet=1662265387700965377¤tTweetUser=UEAthleticsBASE
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2023 19:20:33 GMT -6
Reliever comes in with an 8-run lead and walks a guy.
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2023 19:24:41 GMT -6
Carroll would be wise to bring Roberts in to finish this instead of going to his bullpen.
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2023 19:27:16 GMT -6
ANNOYING POM POM MOMS.
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2023 19:29:20 GMT -6
4th seed rarely makes it to the finals. Of course, they were effectively tied for 3rd and beat the 2 seed 4 out of 4.
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Post by austinace on May 26, 2023 20:14:28 GMT -6
4th seed rarely makes it to the finals. Of course, they were effectively tied for 3rd and beat the 2 seed 4 out of 4.
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Post by 65pointgame on May 26, 2023 21:35:17 GMT -6
Carroll would be wise to bring Roberts in to finish this instead of going to his bullpen. Saving Roberts for tomorrow.
Most people enjoy watching the POM POM MOM -- and she is seated on the UE side, so if you are an ISU fan, just move.
Cotton fuzzies floating all around the field with some bugs mixed in too. Players kept swatting away things from their face.
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Post by 65pointgame on May 26, 2023 22:04:45 GMT -6
Up 11-3 in the eighth. Looking like we’re going to get another chance at Indiana State tomorrow. Just need to close this one out and get some rest. ATP, who’s are likely pitchers for a potential rematch tomorrow? I suspect they have to use Mccauley but it's Allstaff for the Aces. ISU has a lot of options but none of them are their top 3. ISU will probably go with Brennyn Cutts - he was their usual midweek starter. But as ATP mentioned, they have a multitude of options.
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Post by austinace on May 27, 2023 1:01:06 GMT -6
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Post by austinace on May 27, 2023 7:35:54 GMT -6
Top four in the regular season and a guaranteed top two in the postseason tournament - not bad. Irregardless of what happens today it has been a good season and Wes and the boys should be commended.
With that said our goal should be to get to the NCAA postseason tournament and barring a miracle today we will come up a little short. So we need to figure out where we need to improve compared to teams like ISU. Is it pitching that we need to improve in? Do we need an “Ace” pitcher like Benes? Do we need better relievers? Do we need better depth? Do we need better starting hitting? Better depth? I believe we were ninth in the MVC in batting average but second in home runs. Do we need to improve our on base percentage or timely hitting?
We are close and our staff and players should be commended. Let’s go out and win the first game today and give it everything we got in the second game and see where the chips fall.
Go Aces!!!
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2023 8:14:21 GMT -6
Top four in the regular season and a guaranteed top two in the postseason tournament - not bad. Irregardless of what happens today it has been a good season and Wes and the boys should be commended. With that said our goal should be to get to the NCAA postseason tournament and barring a miracle today we will come up a little short. So we need to figure out where we need to improve compared to teams like ISU. Is it pitching that we need to improve in? Do we need an “Ace” pitcher like Benes? Do we need better relievers? Do we need better depth? Do we need better starting hitting? Better depth? I believe we were ninth in the MVC in batting average but second in home runs. Do we need to improve our on base percentage or timely hitting? We are close and our staff and players should be commended. Let’s go out and win the first game today and give it everything we got in the second game and see where the chips fall. Go Aces!!! First off, this team is essentially the same one that emerged a year ago and surprised everyone. The 2022 Aces were supposed to finish in the lower end of the Valley and carved out a very good plus-.500 season. They lost Gray, Craig and Berkey off that team -- replaced them with, really, only Fougerousse. Hug had been the DH and moved to 1st base. So ... this is a veteran team. That is huge. The pitching shored up pretty well this year. It's better than most Valley teams, but it's typically unpredictable. To that end, getting better is an annual process in baseball -- which is a much more fluid sport than basketball now. You bring in 18-year-olds to learn how to pitch in seasons where the first 12 games are somewhere in "Ala-Miss-Fla." Those guys don't develop in a week, so ... look at the UE pitching roster and see which frosh became sophs became guys you could put into a tough game and get you 3 outs. These guys walk too many hitters -- they all do, which is why they have ERAs in the 6.70 range. You need defense. A lot of it. UE defense is very good, though it was shakier at 3B with Widder on the rack. Hitting depends on if the other team is slow or has less experienced pitchers. You have a roster, and you don't get to make trades. Huh ... we knew that. I like Carroll's philosophy on hitting. Get deep in the count, get better pitches. Against staff aces, you will struggle. That's why they call them staff aces. To that end, to the next level -- the Aces are there now. Indiana State found a perfect team and they are running with it. Will that continue? No more so than any other program. The Valley is consistently one of the best college leagues in the country and will continue to attract good talent. Wes Carroll has a top facility and a very strong support staff. How to get Andy Benes? You just ... sometimes get him. Connor Fenlong was a good, not great, pitcher before he came to ISU and he matured. Donovan Schultz may be the lefty version of Benes ... or the next Kyle Freedland. But the Valley will never compete with the top Southern programs. You can't even bother to try. The Big 10, though, is a measure. Valley teams hold their own well against that conference and would bury the MAC in a regular matchup series. Winning 60 percent of your games when the first 10 are in icy March -- that's where a mid-major wants to be. Winning 41 out of 55 like Indiana State -- that's historically unsustainable. Hannahs didn't beat any super strong teams early in the season but he's beaten everybody he should beat. I honestly don't think they have more going for them than anybody else in the Valley. But I will be fair about this -- I hope ISU makes it to Omaha. That's great for the Valley. In the past we had DBU, which was in the league only because they wanted a consistent schedule. They weren't truly "Valley" in anything.
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Post by E-Villan on May 27, 2023 8:43:59 GMT -6
Seems like this Pom Pom Mom bit is taking a life of its own and has now completely triggered our resident Sycamore fan over on their board. Just to clarify that I have this right...it appears he admits to non-stop heckling of our pitchers (but it's G-Rated) to the point he sincerely hopes he is getting in their head, but flips out when our fans or parents call him out for it. He can heckle all night, but parents waving pom poms for their kid is just way too much. Good grief.
Sycamorefan96: Long post, but I really hope we just crush them today, or at a bare minimum just win the first game and get this tournament over with. Their fans that they brought up (mostly parents I think) are the worst of the worst if you ask me. I don't think I can handle 18 more innings of it. You have the pom pom girls that put everyone in a foul mood with their annoying screaming all game long and then when other people start yelling the other Evansville fans get all sensitive about it. I ended up having issues with some of them (not the pom pom girls) as did other ISU fans in our game and MSU fans in the last game.
During our game only, I was heckling their pitchers (with G rated material) yesterday when it got really quiet on the mound when they started struggling, just to try to get in their heads. Was told several times by some UE fans to "Shut up, just shut up". Apparently I got a scarlet letter from their fan base over it.
I stayed for the last game and some woman in about 5 rows in front of me told the people next to her (all UE fans) that "I wish a foul ball would land behind us and hit him" all because I was rooting for MSU. Told my friend that was with me that I wished a foul ball would come up so I could catch it and take it home with me as a souvenir. Later on in the night I told my friend next to me that my newest nickname for the Purple Aces might end up being the Purple Queens and then that group in front of me (never even talked to them the whole game) completely flipped out and started telling me off. Some cop came up and they couldn't even give him a good reason on why they flipped out other than basically saying that I was making fun of their team too much. And just for the record I never said anything all day long that couldn't have been played on the radio or TV.
Before that the cops had to intervene with some MSU fans and UE fans. The UE fans like to poke the bear (no pun intended), but they can't take the heat. Very sensitive and annoying group. Probably doesn't help that they sell beer at the games. A lot of these people are back and forth to the concession stands all day long. I might not get much agreement on this, but I wish they would quit selling beer at our games, or somehow make a limit.
Not sure if all of their fans are like that or not. Seems like a lot of these private school types think they're all that. I know my dad has had multiple bad interactions with their fans in the past at the Human Center. Guess I get to carry that torch now
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Post by 65pointgame on May 27, 2023 10:11:59 GMT -6
Oh my, guy writes an essay about opposing team's fans. Part of this issue could be solved if the MVC gave a designated seating area for opposing team's fans. Yesterday ISU fans pretty much were taking up every section and UE fans had to find seats randomly. Pom Pom mom was near our dugout and what should of been designated a UE section. Any team would love to have her positive attitude and support. I don't even think she makes a comment if there is a bad call from an ump. Most of us age out of making disparaging remarks to opposing team players and realize these are teens and young 20 somethings playing the game. Often with their parents at the game. The only UE fan I saw heckling yesterday was from what appeared to be a UE student...nothing over the top, just commenting about a guys hair, not worthy of being player of the year (towards Nivens), etc.
I will say that the ISU people working at the entrance and concessions were pleasant and cordial. Thanking us for coming to the game, asking us to come back, etc.
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2023 11:32:08 GMT -6
To some end, it's nice that Pom Pom Moms have inspired a little trash talk. I wanted to go back to the immature Twitter guy (sportswriter? ... um, the word is 'impartial', OK?) who first ranted about it and ask him if he was pinin' for some more baseball after the Ozark Flunkies coughed up their "No. 2" seed ... but I learned long ago from a wise coach -- It is better to remain silent, as it makes victory all that much sweeter.
The Shallenbergers are what baseball needs -- people who find the process, the program and the effort worth driving across a whole state, photographing the games and standing on the bleachers for 3 hours waving purple poms. Would it be that another 500 fans did that.
Honestly, I don't care who is annoyed. I found this spring (and last spring) another good reason to check the time every weekend so as to watch Aces baseball. I may eventually become as interested in other UE sports. Professional scouts visit Evansville now and some of these players (on all the teams) will sign contracts. A few others will play summer league games (which are also pretty fun and on the ESPN feeds).
A lot of them will end up in coaching or real businesses, making a real difference. Trash talk all you want. It's hard to criticize the players or the coaches. Fans are fans. The ones who follow the teams should not be driven away by that sort of vitriol. Why would you care if somebody's mother cheered for her son to actually, you know ... want to win?
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