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Post by acecard on Jan 24, 2020 11:14:13 GMT -6
If it means anything at all I tweeted Trey Hall and Kahalil Shaheed and expressed my hope they will still come to UE. Both of them "liked" my message to them. Hard for me to believe they would do that if they had made up their mind to go somewhere else. Those two coming on board with the return Andre would be a good boost. The rest of this year will be Coach TL getting the team stabilized, and implementing and tweaking the offense and defense. I have do illusions of seeing a great turn around the rest of the year, though I am certain within a couple of weeks we will see some improvement. Khalil has already tweeted that he is reopening recruitment. Why am I not surprised, or disappointed? We need players who really want to play here, and get a quality education.
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Post by ytele on Jan 24, 2020 11:20:47 GMT -6
If it means anything at all I tweeted Trey Hall and Kahalil Shaheed and expressed my hope they will still come to UE. Both of them "liked" my message to them. Hard for me to believe they would do that if they had made up their mind to go somewhere else. Those two coming on board with the return Andre would be a good boost. The rest of this year will be Coach TL getting the team stabilized, and implementing and tweaking the offense and defense. I have do illusions of seeing a great turn around the rest of the year, though I am certain within a couple of weeks we will see some improvement. Don't tweet at recruits. Ever.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2020 11:23:11 GMT -6
I am not sure if I can add anything more to what has been written in support of hiring Coach Todd. He checks all the boxes for me. So much so, had he been a finalist for the UE job when UE was first searching for a new head coach, I would have chosen him over WM. Certainly, I did support the hire of Walter when he was named. My biggest concern for him was I was not sure how his NBA experience would translate to a small private school, and knowing it would probably take time for him to develop as a bench coach.
Hiring a new coach, IMO> has to do with hiring a guy at the right place, at the right time.
If it can calm anyone who has a lot of doubts, do know our conference has a coach who came to his school with a whole lot less impressive resume than the coach we just hired. But he was a guy who played at a private university, knew how to relate to players, and was very familiar with the land scape where we would be coming. This coach understood what it would take to move things forward. I am speaking of course, of Porter Moser. People can say all they want about this man, but what he has done for Loyola has been nothing short of spectacular. Porter was the right man at the right time for Loyola. I believe Coach TL is the right guy for UE at this present time and into the immediate future.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2020 11:35:22 GMT -6
If it means anything at all I tweeted Trey Hall and Kahalil Shaheed and expressed my hope they will still come to UE. Both of them "liked" my message to them. Hard for me to believe they would do that if they had made up their mind to go somewhere else. Those two coming on board with the return Andre would be a good boost. The rest of this year will be Coach TL getting the team stabilized, and implementing and tweaking the offense and defense. I have do illusions of seeing a great turn around the rest of the year, though I am certain within a couple of weeks we will see some improvement. Don't tweet at recruits. Ever. You have opinions about tweeting. Feel free to share them. But you may not command anyone to do anything on this forum. I will pay you the same respect as well. I am going to leave it at that.
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Post by ytele on Jan 24, 2020 12:00:12 GMT -6
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Post by ytele on Jan 24, 2020 12:03:21 GMT -6
Before you have any kind of "I'm not a booster retort" almost everyone is a booster www3.nd.edu/~ncaacomp/boosters.shtml#definitionDefining a Booster Who is a Representative of Athletics Interests? The NCAA broadly defines a "booster" as an individual, agency, entity or organization who is known by an institution to: Have participated in or been a member of an agency that promotes the institution's intercollegiate athletics program Have made financial contributions to the athletics department or a booster organization for the department Have been involved otherwise in promoting the institution's athletics program Have been a season ticket holder Have provided benefits to student-athletes or their relatives or friends
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2020 13:00:07 GMT -6
It's OK for fans to use social media to communicate with other people. The fact they are also basketball recruits is sort of dicey. NCAA rules are in place to cut down on the egregious crap like happened at Louisville and other such operations. If you are not sure about contacting a prospective athlete, you might ask yourself if it even makes any difference since you aren't really trying to be friends anyhow. Your goal is to get the guy to come to your school, which isn't going to be affected by your comments. If it is, you have too much clout and are considered a booster.
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Post by COUTEAU on Jan 25, 2020 13:12:50 GMT -6
The, H.E.S. Junta, is still alive & well, I see. Just wonder if the H.E.M Cabal will be as strong, in two years? I am a true "homer" and try to attend a third or more of their total games a season, regardless who's coaching. I don't have near as much invested in the university (monetary or emotionally) as most in here. But, as much a fan of The ACES basketball as most. Could post stats all day about this team, that team, his record, those years, "N or C" tournaments. Bottom line. We're all here for same reason. We're ACES fans. But, now.....let's look forward. Be positive. ACES basketball has become, "The Era of Lickliter". I, personally, changed trains at the last station and am on The Todd Train, now. "All Aboard"
go aces
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Post by gaace on Jan 25, 2020 13:30:25 GMT -6
The, H.E.S. Junta, is still alive & well, I see. Just wonder if the H.E.M Cabal will be as strong, in two years? I am a true "homer" and try to attend a third or more of their total games a season, regardless who's coaching. I don't have near as much invested in the university ( monetary or emotionally) as most in here. But, as much a fan of The ACES basketball as most. Could post stats all day about this team, that team, his record, those years, "N or C" tournaments. Bottom line. We're all here for same reason. We're ACES fans. But, now.....let's look forward. Be positive. ACES basketball has become, "The Era of Lickliter". I, personally, changed trains at the last station and am on The Todd Train, now. "All Aboard" go aces Only if the Todd Train is less Title IX’y than the Walter Train.
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Post by acecard on Jan 26, 2020 12:32:44 GMT -6
The, H.E.S. Junta, is still alive & well, I see. Just wonder if the H.E.M Cabal will be as strong, in two years? go aces Could someone translate the above into the English language? It's too far up in the clouds for me.
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Post by COUTEAU on Jan 26, 2020 15:06:15 GMT -6
Hate Everything Simmons Juanta....A group that rules after taking power by force
Hate Everything McCarty Cabal.....A group of persons united in a plot to overturn a government
Tongue in cheek terminology....obviously
The bitterness of which regime sucked the least or achieved the most, is irrelevant, going forward. No need to "hash it out", again. Unless someone of authority is in here, as a member incognito. None of our opinions are valid. The former coach(s) and records, are history. I've thrown my support to Coach Lickliter & players on the floor and suggested we all do the same.
go aces
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2020 10:45:29 GMT -6
I think watching college players on a stage in from of several thousand fans and TV cameras, plus all that goes with it -- these guys are celebrities of a sort. Strangely, they are more 'not' celebrity now that they have stepped out of their high school years where they truly WERE celebs in Okawville or Oxford or Huddleberry Manitoba. They are also playing against guys who are just as good.
Part of this is about the coaching they got years ago and the coaching, leadership and disciplines they get now as guys aged 20 or 21 years ... or even younger. A frosh at the D1 level has a long way to go to catch up to a senior on the same floor. Their skills are similar, their training and experiences are not.
The main conduit between the players and the fans is the coach. He's measuring a lot of things that are all supposed to equal winning. Winning is defined by somebody else, unless it's Norman Dale.
Lickliter is not going to take UE to the Final 4. He just won't. Nobody else who ever coached UE could do that now, unless there's some old gnarly nun on the sidelines -- which makes for good stories, but is hardly relevant beyond that.
I have no specific point here. Lickliter is not the solution and he's not the problem. Those conversations can land anywhere else, and the UE program is where it is as the result of a lot of decisions by a lot of people -- some 'meh' some important and some downright disastrous.
Sunday's game went from being an embarrassment to a general feeling of overall pride in the determination of a team that isn't very good playing on the road against somebody that is maybe a lot better than we realized. I give the coach a lot of credit for that. All these guys know how to win and they know why they aren't winning.
Fixating on how they got to this point isn't helpful. Expectations. What do you really want from the Aces?
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Post by acecard on Jan 27, 2020 11:14:44 GMT -6
I think watching college players on a stage in from of several thousand fans and TV cameras, plus all that goes with it -- these guys are celebrities of a sort. Strangely, they are more 'not' celebrity now that they have stepped out of their high school years where they truly WERE celebs in Okawville or Oxford or Huddleberry Manitoba. They are also playing against guys who are just as good. Part of this is about the coaching they got years ago and the coaching, leadership and disciplines they get now as guys aged 20 or 21 years ... or even younger. A frosh at the D1 level has a long way to go to catch up to a senior on the same floor. Their skills are similar, their training and experiences are not. The main conduit between the players and the fans is the coach. He's measuring a lot of things that are all supposed to equal winning. Winning is defined by somebody else, unless it's Norman Dale. Lickliter is not going to take UE to the Final 4. He just won't. Nobody else who ever coached UE could do that now, unless there's some old gnarly nun on the sidelines -- which makes for good stories, but is hardly relevant beyond that. I have no specific point here. Lickliter is not the solution and he's not the problem. Those conversations can land anywhere else, and the UE program is where it is as the result of a lot of decisions by a lot of people -- some 'meh' some important and some downright disastrous. Sunday's game went from being an embarrassment to a general feeling of overall pride in the determination of a team that isn't very good playing on the road against somebody that is maybe a lot better than we realized. I give the coach a lot of credit for that. All these guys know how to win and they know why they aren't winning. Fixating on how they got to this point isn't helpful. Expectations. What do you really want from the Aces? I want them to be competitive in every game they play. I want them to be a team that their opponent says to themselves, we are going to have play our best to beat them. I want them to commit less than 10 turn overs per game. I want them to hit at least 40% of their three's. I want them to get as many rebounds as their opponent. I want them to be a team that when teams come to the Ford they think they will be damn lucky to get a win. I don't expect that to happen this year, but would like that be the case next year, and years to follow. I would also like to win the Powerball.
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Post by mybigpurplebrain on Jan 27, 2020 12:38:24 GMT -6
I think watching college players on a stage in from of several thousand fans and TV cameras, plus all that goes with it -- these guys are celebrities of a sort. Strangely, they are more 'not' celebrity now that they have stepped out of their high school years where they truly WERE celebs in Okawville or Oxford or Huddleberry Manitoba. They are also playing against guys who are just as good. Part of this is about the coaching they got years ago and the coaching, leadership and disciplines they get now as guys aged 20 or 21 years ... or even younger. A frosh at the D1 level has a long way to go to catch up to a senior on the same floor. Their skills are similar, their training and experiences are not. The main conduit between the players and the fans is the coach. He's measuring a lot of things that are all supposed to equal winning. Winning is defined by somebody else, unless it's Norman Dale. Lickliter is not going to take UE to the Final 4. He just won't. Nobody else who ever coached UE could do that now, unless there's some old gnarly nun on the sidelines -- which makes for good stories, but is hardly relevant beyond that. I have no specific point here. Lickliter is not the solution and he's not the problem. Those conversations can land anywhere else, and the UE program is where it is as the result of a lot of decisions by a lot of people -- some 'meh' some important and some downright disastrous. Sunday's game went from being an embarrassment to a general feeling of overall pride in the determination of a team that isn't very good playing on the road against somebody that is maybe a lot better than we realized. I give the coach a lot of credit for that. All these guys know how to win and they know why they aren't winning. Fixating on how they got to this point isn't helpful. Expectations. What do you really want from the Aces? I guess there is nothin left to say or discuss. This guy knows all and the crystal ball is his alone. BTW I like most saw a immediate difference in how the team played in just TL first week with them.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2020 18:30:16 GMT -6
You'll notice the "well I would have..." "They should have...." "when they could have..." experts tend to be peripheral fly-bys that seem to believe if it goes south in a year or so someone will say "Gee those negative Normans sure knew what they were talking about! And I've also noticed the dozen or so hard core, long term, vested supporters I chat with are a lot more like me. Tickled to death to get Todd on board as soon as we did. I have a strong feeling the University knows who to pay attention to.
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