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Post by wildbill on Mar 6, 2020 14:02:45 GMT -6
It's just too bad we can't ever land one of our local high school prospects. I understand the kids want to go to a bigger school, but can you imagine?
Khristian Lander - IU
Isaiah Swope - Castle
Kiyron Powell - Houston
It'd sure be great if our local kids would go to UE for their collegiate years!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2020 14:37:15 GMT -6
It's just too bad we can't ever land one of our local high school prospects. I understand the kids want to go to a bigger school, but can you imagine? Khristian Lander - IU Isaiah Swope - Castle Kiyron Powell - Houston It'd sure be great if our local kids would go to UE for their collegiate years! My guess is that every Valley school is saying the same thing, though UNI seems to have a gift for plucking kids out of Minnesota wheatfields. These kids are all invested in AAU programs at age 13 now and all of them believe their futures are much brighter than they are. The rare 5-star guy is already fitted with a car and an apartment in Lexington or Durham.
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Post by aceschamps6571 on Mar 6, 2020 15:57:28 GMT -6
It's kind of always been this way. When I was a little kid, Larry Weatherford and Bob Ford went to Purdue, Vaughn Wedeking and Greg Nelson went to Jacksonville, and Curt John to Tennessee, although he later transferred "home" to UE. Later, we saw Derek Lindauer go to Murray State, Derrick Dowell to USC, Brien Miles to Oral Roberts, and a few years later, it was Calbert Cheaney to IU, and Walter McCarty to Kentucky. Just over a decade ago, Kyle Kuric could have been a star at UE, but chose to walk on at Louisville, where he ultimately got on scholarship and played well. Now, Alex Hemenway is doing very well for Clemson. Kids, and most adults, who are sports fans, watch the Big Ten, ACC, SEC, etc. on TV. Nobody "dreams" of leading the hometown team to the Sweet 16. They want to play for the elite teams that are on TV all the time. Not sure that will ever change, since that's how it's been for decades.
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Post by COUTEAU on Mar 6, 2020 18:11:05 GMT -6
I believe a way for UE , to attract "local talent" sh/w/could, start long before AAU eligibility or the recruiting process. It should begin at the grade school level. Schedule a "mini-practice" at schools, in the local/ surrounding community. Take a few players to those schools, to their gymnasium. Let an assistant coach run a few drills with a handful of ACES. Throw down a few dunks, knock down some threes, slap some high fives. Talk about The Purple & Orange. The thrill & experience of playing at The FC. Representing the area, city, the community, their neighborhood. Make being an ACES student athlete something not only the next Khristian Lander dreams of becoming. But, also the future Jackie Young. Once these "gifted" kids get the next stage of the education process, they've most likely narrowed their list. Odds are, many may not even know UE has a basketball team.
go aces
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Post by COUTEAU on Mar 6, 2020 18:12:34 GMT -6
It's kind of always been this way. When I was a little kid, Larry Weatherford and Bob Ford went to Purdue, Vaughn Wedeking and Greg Nelson went to Jacksonville, and Curt John to Tennessee, although he later transferred "home" to UE. Later, we saw Derek Lindauer go to Murray State, Derrick Dowell to USC, Brien Miles to Oral Roberts, and a few years later, it was Calbert Cheaney to IU, and Walter McCarty to Kentucky. Just over a decade ago, Kyle Kuric could have been a star at UE, but chose to walk on at Louisville, where he ultimately got on scholarship and played well. Now, Alex Hemenway is doing very well for Clemson. Kids, and most adults, who are sports fans, watch the Big Ten, ACC, SEC, etc. on TV. Nobody "dreams" of leading the hometown team to the Sweet 16. They want to play for the elite teams that are on TV all the time. Not sure that will ever change, since that's how it's been for decades. I was hoping Art would have been The ACES version of Kuric.
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Post by indymoon on Mar 6, 2020 20:35:11 GMT -6
Dru Smith was an Ace
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2020 8:08:14 GMT -6
Of course, in the D2 years, UE thrived on guys from 'up the road a ways,' like Buse, Wellemeyer, Greg Martin, Rick Smith. Those were the days when IU wondered how come it was they weren't getting Larry Humes.
Even Dick Walters had some luck getting area guys like Kenny Perry. When that changed is when the game went big-time TV. Suddenly the superstar players were getting ESPN blabbermouth reports from "whoaaaaaaaaaa! what a thunder dunk!' and the UE's of the world became backwaters. Now you have to cheat to compete.
Any given region will produce one all-state candidate every year. The top guys like the Romeo's or the Caleb's ... they sign on to play at a B1G school for a year, and that's where it ends for them. IU and Purdue have exactly the same thing to show for that as Evansville does -- a guy who didn't even stay long enough to have his damned jersey retired.
But the Aces can attract a Colt Ryan or DJ Ballentine or some really nice guys from Lithuania or Bosnia or western Canada. Valpo does a nice job of getting those players. I'd rather have four guys like Jalen Brown than one "I'm here till I get my agent" superstar.
College ball is about the players now, their agents and the money. It is not about the fans.
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Post by bballjunkie on Mar 7, 2020 8:34:34 GMT -6
Hope Coach Lickliter takes a strong look at Bosse’s PG Kolten Sanford. That kid is a gamer, gym rat, and hits shots from everywhere.
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Post by youngacesfan on Mar 7, 2020 10:46:36 GMT -6
It stinks we struggle with local kids because there is no shortage of talent in the area. I hope we can get sisley
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Post by Tom Servo on Mar 7, 2020 21:55:43 GMT -6
Sisley is the guy I want
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Post by aceshigh on Mar 8, 2020 0:25:37 GMT -6
Sisley is a clone of LaRavia and he’s really the type of player to man the 5. From what I’ve seen of TL’s coaching style both here and at Butler he’s our perfect recruit.
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Post by evilleman on Mar 9, 2020 7:25:09 GMT -6
I believe a way for UE , to attract "local talent" sh/w/could, start long before AAU eligibility or the recruiting process. It should begin at the grade school level. Schedule a " mini-practice" at schools, in the local/ surrounding community. Take a few players to those schools, to their gymnasium. Let an assistant coach run a few drills with a handful of ACES. Throw down a few dunks, knock down some threes, slap some high fives. Talk about The Purple & Orange. The thrill & experience of playing at The FC. Representing the area, city, the community, their neighborhood. Make being an ACES student athlete something not only the next Khristian Lander dreams of becoming. But, also the future Jackie Young. Once these "gifted" kids get the next stage of the education process, they've most likely narrowed their list. Odds are, many may not even know UE has a basketball team. go aces I mean I'm all for trying anything. But, do you think a kid is going to turn down a chance to play in the Big 10 because the Aces came to his elementary school. Hell Dru left for the SEC after being an Ace. It's just the world of college hoops right now.
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Post by evilleman on Mar 9, 2020 7:27:33 GMT -6
Hope Coach Lickliter takes a strong look at Bosse’s PG Kolten Sanford. That kid is a gamer, gym rat, and hits shots from everywhere. Great high school basketball player. One of my favorite kids I've watched play the past few years. Think he will do great in college. IMO not at the D1 level.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2020 7:39:28 GMT -6
I believe a way for UE , to attract "local talent" sh/w/could, start long before AAU eligibility or the recruiting process. It should begin at the grade school level. I mean I'm all for trying anything. But, do you think a kid is going to turn down a chance to play in the Big 10 because the Aces came to his elementary school. Hell Dru left for the SEC after being an Ace. It's just the world of college hoops right now. I concur that that strategy isn't going to work on a kid who's been turned over to an AAU program after being conditioned to believe he's got an NBA future ... but I don't think overall that selling UE to local or regional kids is a terrible idea. It's saturation marketing, ingraining the idea that a degree from the top Tri-State athletics program is an asset to one's life. Most guys who play for the Aces end their careers when the Arch Madness ends on their senior season. Those are the guys who make the program go. You get a Jalen Brown or Adam Wing by selling the program. Sadly, the time between the last Aces standout team and the next one is rapidly expanding. Meaning, you could sell UE to Don Buse because he'd heard of Jerry Sloan. You can't sell UE to the next generation of kids because all they remember is maybe that the Aces won the CIT four or five years ago. I believe in marketing to the kid who wants to believe they will hang his jersey in the rafters. And the jersey should have sleeves, purple letters on the front ... the tradition got flushed down the drain when UE stopped being original. Now they're unique -- they are the least interesting basketball program in the Valley. Boring people run the show. Boring results will emerge. Here's the deal -- UE has 5,000 fans on an average (paid) ... there's something there. If you are boring and run the show, all you are counting is heads. Put some whirlybirds on their caps. Sell purple towels that say "We beat UK and you didn't!" Sorry about the length of my comments, but this one is kind of what I really enjoy about the process -- how do you sell chicken feathers to chickens.
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Post by aceshigh on Mar 9, 2020 8:09:35 GMT -6
Tell them the sky is falling. Lol
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