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Post by Incognito on Nov 1, 2023 15:48:48 GMT -6
A lot of these old guys here have short memories. In the past they have beaten up USI for having lower academic standards which enhanced their ability to recruit athletes from a larger pool than UE. I am not the first person here to refer to USI as Westside High School. I'm just the first one that did so and also promoted the Covid-19 vaccine instead of drinking bleach and gobbling horse medicine as a cure. I have had a target on my back from that day forward. The name-calling directed at me has never ended and never will. Beyond the facade, E-Villan and his assistants wouldn't have it any other way. To his credit, he seems to understand that in order to remain interesting forums should include many voices and not just one. So far. I have attended USI games and will again. The small gym atmosphere is fun. Their fans are more engaged and louder. The pep band is always present and far better than any band UE has cobbled together since the Ford Center opened. Their band appears to be there by choice instead of by coercion. The team plays up-tempo and have never been Marty-ball predictable and sluggish. I'm purple-stubborn or I would be screaming with the eagles in a NY minute. One word about the Ford Center actual attendance kerfuffle, USI, at least in the DII years, always had announced attendance figures that were in 100 increments. It would be 2200, 2000, 1900 and on a good day, 2600. Either that was an amazing coincidence or they were pulling the numbers out of thin air. I went to a game where they didn't take my ticket, scan my ticket or look at my ticket. I just walked in and sat down. I don't care if the attendance figures match reality. If the guy sitting next to me skips a game I don't care if he is counted or not. I have somewhere to put my coat. In your rush to be argumentative, you failed to grasp the point I was making. Let me narrow it down for you. Some of you use phrases like "West Side High" "Lower Conference" and "Super Bowl", then in the next breath can't figure out why they hate us or want to beat us so much? Geez, I have no idea.It's not about being offended by the names as it is the unfound arrogance of people believing and stating we are too good to play them. Simply put, putting someone down and then scratching your head on why they want to beat you. Don't over think it. If we are going to trash talk them, then we need to be willing to lace em' up, and to date, we haven't. To be a rivalry, you actually have to play them. Again, it's not about being offended with the names. I have used plenty against our rivals. For the record, USI is not in fact West Side High. That would be Reitz. however, the Valpo gym you alluded to is in fact a high school gym. On second thought, there are several high school gyms in Indiana that are far superior to it. That is simply a reality. Now calling them Lighthouses and such is just good old fashioned trash talking. No, I am not encouraging you to start another epic rant on the Valpo mascot issue. Muller earned his reputation, however, I don't think you will find a derogatory post from me about Illinois State since he has been gone. In fact, I was very complimentary of him on how he conducted himself when he left, particularly the final radio show he did. He showed a lot of class. As for myself or the other mods having a bias against you over Covid-19, that is quite the stretch, even by your standards. None of us give a damn how many boosters you have had or haven't had, or if you sprinkle it in your coffee every morning. Frankly, I would prefer if Covid was never mentioned on this forum again. I think it is safe to say your leash has been as long as anyone's on here. Relax and lighten up. And let me narrow it down for you. In "my next breath" after West Side High, I have never wondered why they hate us, nor have I scratched my head over why they want to beat us. You are getting your breaths and head scratches mixed up. I don't even think that "they" hate us. Some do, some don't. Most couldn't care less. I'm not even confused over why "they" want to beat us. Just like every team in any sport, beating the opponent is the number one goal. Whether I call them West Side High or Harvard-Evansville Campus, they want to beat us. They want to finish the season undefeated and so do we and so does Fill-in-the-Blank. Does that really surprise you? I never said that YOU have continued to be derogatory towards Illinois State. My point is that some on the board continue to be and are not met with the same self-righteous finger-wagging. You could lecture them as you have me, but you don't. It's a tell. And, I didn't start an epic rant on Valpo's mascot issue. The author of that angry rant was aces44. This platform makes it pretty clear who started a thread so I don't know how you got that so wrong. Perhaps you should allow him to have the first and last word and then lock the thread before anyone can respond. Demeaning teams on the schedule is a yearly occurrence here. Go back and look at some of the demeaning comments on SWAC teams. They shouldn't be hard to find. Do you wonder why SWAC teams hate us and want to beat us? Probably not. Do you wonder why so many here call the OVC a "lower conference" or why they thought it was even lower when Belmont and Murray State left? Are you disappointed that Ken Pomeroy has agreed with them then and now? I drink my coffee black but thanks for caring.
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Post by purpleaces on Nov 1, 2023 16:41:16 GMT -6
In your rush to be argumentative, you failed to grasp the point I was making. Let me narrow it down for you. Some of you use phrases like "West Side High" "Lower Conference" and "Super Bowl", then in the next breath can't figure out why they hate us or want to beat us so much? Geez, I have no idea.It's not about being offended by the names as it is the unfound arrogance of people believing and stating we are too good to play them. Simply put, putting someone down and then scratching your head on why they want to beat you. Don't over think it. If we are going to trash talk them, then we need to be willing to lace em' up, and to date, we haven't. To be a rivalry, you actually have to play them. Again, it's not about being offended with the names. I have used plenty against our rivals. For the record, USI is not in fact West Side High. That would be Reitz. however, the Valpo gym you alluded to is in fact a high school gym. On second thought, there are several high school gyms in Indiana that are far superior to it. That is simply a reality. Now calling them Lighthouses and such is just good old fashioned trash talking. No, I am not encouraging you to start another epic rant on the Valpo mascot issue. Muller earned his reputation, however, I don't think you will find a derogatory post from me about Illinois State since he has been gone. In fact, I was very complimentary of him on how he conducted himself when he left, particularly the final radio show he did. He showed a lot of class. As for myself or the other mods having a bias against you over Covid-19, that is quite the stretch, even by your standards. None of us give a damn how many boosters you have had or haven't had, or if you sprinkle it in your coffee every morning. Frankly, I would prefer if Covid was never mentioned on this forum again. I think it is safe to say your leash has been as long as anyone's on here. Relax and lighten up. And let me narrow it down for you. In "my next breath" after West Side High, I have never wondered why they hate us, nor have I scratched my head over why they want to beat us. You are getting your breaths and head scratches mixed up. I don't even think that "they" hate us. Some do, some don't. Most couldn't care less. I'm not even confused over why "they" want to beat us. Just like every team in any sport, beating the opponent is the number one goal. Whether I call them West Side High or Harvard-Evansville Campus, they want to beat us. They want to finish the season undefeated and so do we and so does Fill-in-the-Blank. Does that really surprise you? I never said that YOU have continued to be derogatory towards Illinois State. My point is that some on the board continue to be and are not met with the same self-righteous finger-wagging. You could lecture them as you have me, but you don't. It's a tell. And, I didn't start an epic rant on Valpo's mascot issue. The author of that angry rant was aces44. This platform makes it pretty clear who started a thread so I don't know how you got that so wrong. Perhaps you should allow him to have the first and last word and then lock the thread before anyone can respond. Demeaning teams on the schedule is a yearly occurrence here. Go back and look at some of the demeaning comments on SWAC teams. They shouldn't be hard to find. Do you wonder why SWAC teams hate us and want to beat us? Probably not. Do you wonder why so many here call the OVC a "lower conference" or why they thought it was even lower when Belmont and Murray State left? Are you disappointed that Ken Pomeroy has agreed with them then and now? I drink my coffee black but thanks for caring. Please just go away. You just ramble to ramble🙄🙄
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Post by ATP on Nov 1, 2023 16:42:26 GMT -6
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Post by austinace on Nov 1, 2023 16:52:59 GMT -6
Being a moderator is a thankless job. I for one think they do an honorable job and are very thankful for them.
With that said this is another example of the same few people rambling on and hijacking the thread and steering it off-topic.
At some point some hard choices may have to be made by the mods so that a few people don’t ruin it for the rest of us that are here for Aces basketball information and insight. Any bickering or argumentive, derogatory personal insults should be taken offline and either be addressed directly through PMs or directly with the mods. That is my two cents.
For me, this is my only comment on this and won’t respond unless it has to do with the original thread topic/Aces basketball.
Note: We are all here because we have a passion for Aces basketball - so please stop the needless bickering and derogatory, personal insults on things not related to moving the conversation forward.
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Post by harrison88 on Nov 1, 2023 19:41:59 GMT -6
For crying out loud aces. Do you think UE is a SEC school? Do you really think USI fans have such high esteem for UE that USI consider it their "super bowl" by playing UE? Do you think USI fans were "devastated" last season not playing UE? Do you think USI fans said "aw shucks" we can't play UE so we have to play Missouri and Notre Dame instead? Do you think this year USI fans are saying this year "aw shucks" we can't play UE again this year so we have to play Duke, Michigan State and Saint Louis? In women's basketball last year USI fans were saying "aw shucks" we can't play UE so we have to play Big East school Butler and Big 12 school Cincinnati. This year in USI women's basketball this year USI fans are saying "aw shucks" we can't play UE but we have to play a Big 12 school Cincinnati on our home court. Is Xavier, Butler and Saint Louis beating down the door to schedule UE? Truth is USI has their own destiny and UE is not part of USI's destiny. AS for the bragging that the MVC is a better conference than the OVC aces fans keep in mind of this. The MVC is a higher seed than the OVC but both conferences are a one bid league.
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Post by evilleintentions on Nov 1, 2023 19:57:14 GMT -6
Well…………
Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul. Mr. Madison, the Industrial Revolution changed the face of the modern novel forever.
Are we going to argue next about who’s manhood is bigger? Good lord.
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Post by ATP on Nov 1, 2023 23:03:36 GMT -6
Moderator: The guy who created the forum. That's it, that's all. Makes the rules and gets paid zilch to enforce them. Moderate your own content. Everyone here thinks his own damned comments are the vision of pure wisdom. They are just opinions. Seriously, are you people so thin-skinned as to be bothered because somebody posts a snarky comment on a freakin' sports forum? How about, add some content instead of bellyaching about a "few people" who have ruined your lives. Good grief, go rake the leaves. You whiny-azzed old people need a damned moderator to make sure your little snowflake world isn't disrupted.
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Post by purpleaces on Nov 2, 2023 6:17:47 GMT -6
Moderator: The guy who created the forum. That's it, that's all. Makes the rules and gets paid zilch to enforce them. Moderate your own content. Everyone here thinks his own damned comments are the vision of pure wisdom. They are just opinions. Seriously, are you people so thin-skinned as to be bothered because somebody posts a snarky comment on a freakin' sports forum? How about, add some content instead of bellyaching about a "few people" who have ruined your lives. Good grief, go rake the leaves. You whiny-azzed old people need a damned moderator to make sure your little snowflake world isn't disrupted. Would love to meet you at a game. Where do you sit? Can I buy you a beer afterwards?
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Post by Atlanta Ace on Nov 2, 2023 7:45:40 GMT -6
I guess I am in the minority since I actually live-streamed a lot of USI's games last winter and in a couple of cases, turned off the UE game in favor of that, since one of those games featured some actual enthusiasm. I didn't see much that reminded me of "West Side High." Summary: USI, when things were going right for them, could have beaten UE by 20 points. The Aces I saw last year were the WORST basketball team I've ever seen them put on the court. There were not even 15 examples of when that wasn't true. USI: The totality of the OVC is that it has been shredded by the Portal, NIL, misguided coaches, players and athletics departments. That being the case, the Screams have gone from zero to 60 very quickly and it won't take them long to recover from the roster rebuild. They aren't eligible for anything anyhow, so they can just tread water, get as many road-kill paychecks as they can ........ because everybody needs the cash. If Stan Gouard can coach, he can recruit a team. Watching the OVC now, that's not a high hill to climb. USI doesn't need the Aces. I'd wager they do end up with KWC next year and that one will fill their fieldhouse. Wesleyan, with a win over an ACC team already this year ............... A lot of these old guys here have short memories. In the past they have beaten up USI for having lower academic standards which enhanced their ability to recruit athletes from a larger pool than UE. I am not the first person here to refer to USI as Westside High School. I'm just the first one that did so and also promoted the Covid-19 vaccine instead of drinking bleach and gobbling horse medicine as a cure. I have had a target on my back from that day forward. The name-calling directed at me has never ended and never will. Beyond the facade, E-Villan and his assistants wouldn't have it any other way. To his credit, he seems to understand that in order to remain interesting forums should include many voices and not just one. So far. There is not much I can do about how you are perceived here. I can remind everyone to make their points without the name calling and have people edit those posts. To your credit, you've edited posts that I've asked you to.
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Post by evilleintentions on Nov 2, 2023 9:30:28 GMT -6
Moderator: The guy who created the forum. That's it, that's all. Makes the rules and gets paid zilch to enforce them. Moderate your own content. Everyone here thinks his own damned comments are the vision of pure wisdom. They are just opinions. Seriously, are you people so thin-skinned as to be bothered because somebody posts a snarky comment on a freakin' sports forum? How about, add some content instead of bellyaching about a "few people" who have ruined your lives. Good grief, go rake the leaves. You whiny-azzed old people need a damned moderator to make sure your little snowflake world isn't disrupted. Old guy calls out old guy scenario?
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Post by Incognito on Nov 2, 2023 10:19:20 GMT -6
Moderator: The guy who created the forum. That's it, that's all. Makes the rules and gets paid zilch to enforce them. Moderate your own content. Everyone here thinks his own damned comments are the vision of pure wisdom. They are just opinions. Seriously, are you people so thin-skinned as to be bothered because somebody posts a snarky comment on a freakin' sports forum? How about, add some content instead of bellyaching about a "few people" who have ruined your lives. Good grief, go rake the leaves. You whiny-azzed old people need a damned moderator to make sure your little snowflake world isn't disrupted. This may be the most accurate weather channel ever. The 100% chance of fragile snowflakes forecast is always right. In the Irony Department, on another thread Bob Knight is being glorified by the same people for being brash and not giving a rat's azz about hurt feelings. Stomping on snowflakes and not mincing words was a large part of his schtick. But allow me to get back on topic. UE would stomp USI in basketball this year. The arena would empty at halftime.
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Post by 6thman on Nov 2, 2023 13:31:09 GMT -6
In consideration that this is a free site may the discussions continue....Consider the cost of the data usage In uselessness of flamboyantly making statements when a concise idea would work. We can reduce the cost on the administrator of this free site by reducing the gigabytes
Just a thought I could be ....
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Post by wildbill on Nov 2, 2023 14:28:37 GMT -6
Moderator: The guy who created the forum. That's it, that's all. Makes the rules and gets paid zilch to enforce them. Moderate your own content. Everyone here thinks his own damned comments are the vision of pure wisdom. They are just opinions. Seriously, are you people so thin-skinned as to be bothered because somebody posts a snarky comment on a freakin' sports forum? How about, add some content instead of bellyaching about a "few people" who have ruined your lives. Good grief, go rake the leaves. You whiny-azzed old people need a damned moderator to make sure your little snowflake world isn't disrupted. This may be the most accurate weather channel ever. The 100% chance of fragile snowflakes forecast is always right. In the Irony Department, on another thread Bob Knight is being glorified by the same people for being brash and not giving a rat's azz about hurt feelings. Stomping on snowflakes and not mincing words was a large part of his schtick. But allow me to get back on topic. UE would stomp USI in basketball this year. The arena would empty at halftime. Thank you. As I have said earlier, Dave has our kids moving into being a top-tier MVC team. I thought (wrong) that Lickliter would have turned the program into a contender. I hope I'm not wrong again, but Dave is going to be alright. Let's schedule UE-USI as the season opener for both teams, every season. Put it on a Saturday night, the first of November, at the Ford Center. I think it'd fun. But, I still think UE is the superior program and would dominate in most years. Go UE!
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Post by Incognito on Nov 2, 2023 14:57:38 GMT -6
This may be the most accurate weather channel ever. The 100% chance of fragile snowflakes forecast is always right. In the Irony Department, on another thread Bob Knight is being glorified by the same people for being brash and not giving a rat's azz about hurt feelings. Stomping on snowflakes and not mincing words was a large part of his schtick. But allow me to get back on topic. UE would stomp USI in basketball this year. The arena would empty at halftime. Thank you. As I have said earlier, Dave has our kids moving into being a top-tier MVC team. I thought (wrong) that Lickliter would have turned the program into a contender. I hope I'm not wrong again, but Dave is going to be alright. Let's schedule UE-USI as the season opener for both teams, every season. Put it on a Saturday night, the first of November, at the Ford Center. I think it'd fun. But, I still think UE is the superior program and would dominate in most years. Oh, and Bobe still sucks.....lmao You ruined a wonderful post by adding one more sentence. They should retire Bobe's number until you repent.
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Post by Incognito on Nov 2, 2023 14:59:53 GMT -6
In consideration that this is a free site may the discussions continue....Consider the cost of the data usage In uselessness of flamboyantly making statements when a concise idea would work. We can reduce the cost on the administrator of this free site by reducing the gigabytes Just a thought I could be .... You should only use three elipses, never four. Concise, you're not.
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