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Post by acepurple84 on Jan 22, 2020 20:13:03 GMT -6
Well, at least the Aces didn't shoot 20-25 three's tonight. They shot 29. Only problem was that only 7 went into the basket. Hall 0-4 Frederking 0-7 Cunliffe 0-4 You aren't going to win games if they shot like that. Step up 3 feet shoot I they keep missing then bench them they aren't helping
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Post by purplestrong on Jan 22, 2020 20:16:27 GMT -6
Say what you want about Simmons but his teams could play defense. This is the worst defensive aces team I have seen in 30 years. Every team that comes in here lights it up from three points and drives to the basket unmolested too many times. Also, Simmons’ teams never finished in last place in the valley to my recollection even once. I did see some better offense of play from Evansville but they can’t hit the broadside of a barn. Henderson needs to be getting more playing time.
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Post by coachd88 on Jan 22, 2020 20:17:10 GMT -6
Well, at least the Aces didn't shoot 20-25 three's tonight. They shot 29. Only problem was that only 7 went into the basket. Hall 0-4 Frederking 0-7 Cunliffe 0-4 You aren't going to win games if they shot like that. Step up 3 feet shoot I they keep missing then bench them they aren't helping
You mean that line isn't a wall?
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Post by austinace on Jan 22, 2020 20:25:26 GMT -6
Say what you want about Simmons but his teams could play defense. This is the worst defensive aces team I have seen in 30 years. Every team that comes in here lights it up from three points and drives to the basket unmolested too many times. Also, Simmons’ teams never finished in last place in the valley to my recollection even once. I did see some better offense of play from Evansville but they can’t hit the broadside of a barn. Henderson needs to be getting more playing time. - Purplestrong, I agree that Marty's teams played better defense. That is undeniable.
- Marty's team finished in 10th place in the MVC twice in his first three years (Marty's Coaching record)
- I agree that we are not shooting well.
- I agree that Henderson deserves more playing time as well.
Three out of four is not bad. But in all fairness it is worth noting that Marty did not finish in last place in the Valley his last eight years.
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Post by nafseca on Jan 22, 2020 20:42:40 GMT -6
I think we all should just come to the conclusion that we suck. Whether Williams gets back or not we just wont suck as much. Hope they prove me wrong. I will still yell and scream for them. But hit some shots for a change. My grandson talked to Williams before the game and he said he will probably not play the rest of the year. Said he cracked something but grandson couldn't remember what.
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Post by coachd88 on Jan 22, 2020 20:48:29 GMT -6
I think we all should just come to the conclusion that we suck. Whether Williams gets back or not we just wont suck as much. Hope they prove me wrong. I will still yell and scream for them. But hit some shots for a change. My grandson talked to Williams before the game and he said he will probably not play the rest of the year. Said he cracked something but grandson couldn't remember what. And there you have it.....
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Post by wildbill on Jan 22, 2020 20:58:00 GMT -6
My grandson talked to Williams before the game and he said he will probably not play the rest of the year. Said he cracked something but grandson couldn't remember what. And there you have it..... I bet something's cracked. Does anybody else think what I'm thinking here?
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Post by coachd88 on Jan 22, 2020 20:59:28 GMT -6
And there you have it..... I bet something's cracked. Does anybody else think what I'm thinking here? Yes I do
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Post by purplestrong on Jan 22, 2020 21:01:23 GMT -6
Say what you want about Simmons but his teams could play defense. This is the worst defensive aces team I have seen in 30 years. Every team that comes in here lights it up from three points and drives to the basket unmolested too many times. Also, Simmons’ teams never finished in last place in the valley to my recollection even once. I did see some better offense of play from Evansville but they can’t hit the broadside of a barn. Henderson needs to be getting more playing time. - Purplestrong, I agree that Marty's teams played better defense. That is undeniable.
- Marty's team finished in 10th place in the MVC twice in his first three years (Marty's Coaching record)
- I agree that we are not shooting well.
- I agree that Henderson deserves more playing time as well.
Three out of four is not bad. But in all fairness it is worth noting that Marty did not finish in last place in the Valley his last eight years.
I stand corrected sir. I was too lazy to look it up. It’s funny how our brains block out the unpleasant things. There will be nights when shots just don’t go in, but defense should be a constant that can keep you in games like that. I hope we get a coach or an assistant that can teach defense. If not, we’ll never be at a competitive level in the Valley. On another note, I fear we have seen the last of Williams wearing UE Purple.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2020 21:01:59 GMT -6
As far as DeAndre's back, it does depend on the type of injury. If it's pulled muscles or a strain, he can heal and play again. If it's more structural, that could be a career ender. The kid is 6-9 so it's not uncommon for tall guys to have those problems. The UE med staff isn't going to address that in public. To be honest, getting him back now won't move the needle for me. Just finish out with 19 losses in a row and start over again. I can't lose any sleep over what I've seen since the first of the year. It's almost baseball season.
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Post by sect3purple on Jan 22, 2020 21:29:04 GMT -6
The excuse of "these kids have undergone such a horrible series of events with the McCarty situation and now with 3 coaches since Christmas and that is just too much for 18-22 year old "kids" to deal with" or even the excuse of Williams being injured, are NOT why we saw such pathetic play for 7 games now...
We just simply have (with few exceptions) little offense, little defense, horrible free-throw shooting, AND WE HAVE NO FIGHT, AND LITTLE WILL to win!
Not one player out there tonight played like he deserved the free education he is receiving!
Embarrassing lack of effort ....weak, slow, and sloppy...do we even have shooting practice anymore?
Next time why don't we just hoist a white flag and give up at the first jump ball and save us all time and trouble to show up at the FC!
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Post by ncace on Jan 22, 2020 21:48:38 GMT -6
As fans, I think we should assume that DeAndre will not return this year. After attending the game tonight, it is clear to me that we have a bunch of individuals suiting up for UE. A few of them want to be on a team, and they are giving effort every play. At least 3 of them have either a "hero" complex or simply think they can do what they want, regardless of who coaches them or how the opponent defends them.
We are a very predictable offense that can be scouted easily.
Drake was not a really talented team, IMHO, but they played AS a team. They defended well, spaced their offense well, established the inside game first (scouting), then took advantage later by hitting WIDE OPEN 3's and good passing to WIDE OPEN cutters.
I give Coach Lickliter a pass on tonight, and I give him credit for being on the job quickly and trying to connect with the players ASAP. On the other hand, I didn't see happiness in the faces of the Aces tonight. Some might say the basket had a cover on it, but in fact, we simply are not a good shooting team from 3, and we try to take the ball inside by dribbling, rather than passing the ball. Again, we are SO predictable.
However, above all this, I was struck by how lazy we look. A couple of players, especially, shuffle their feet, rather than hustling up and down the court. I was glad to see Newton and Henderson get more PT. They are both guys with the right stuff....do their jobs, hustle, play defense.
This team desperately needs to have a mentality of improvement, game-to-game, but frankly, they do not value the ball enough, and we do not play fundamental basketball. As a whole, our team tonight could have been 5 guys brought together like a couple of the teams we played in Europe this summer. (Who's around, and can they show up tonight?)
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2020 22:21:22 GMT -6
If nothing else the cloud was gone and our lineage is connected to a program like Butler and I don't have to fight the gag reflex when I say UK. We can all pick apart the box score and pretend like we have the answers, but fact is Coach is going to review the tapes 50 times deeper than any of us and I'm sure adjustments are coming. Especially with DW out he has limited options. The first time I'll judge this coaching decision will be October 2021, MVC pre-season poll. ~ 60 games from now.
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Post by bballjunkie on Jan 22, 2020 22:27:11 GMT -6
I’m assuming DeAndre has played his last game in an Aces uniform. He’s already 21 years old or so and has been out of high school for 3 years. If McCarty would’ve been here next year, I think Williams May have returned but I’m not so sure now. I think he’ll test the NBA draft process based on his strong performance against UK and the strong non conference schedule and see where he stands. He may opt for the G-League or go to Europe for a couple years to strengthen his game, make money, then look at the NBA. I hope I’m wrong, but with the over-recruiting going on, his buddy head coach fired, etc there’s room to worry.
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Post by mybigpurplebrain on Jan 22, 2020 22:39:29 GMT -6
Say what you will but the defeatist attitude is almost unbearable. Too much effort to think that way all the time.
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