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Post by Ace78 on Jan 21, 2020 22:26:29 GMT -6
I never dreamed that Todd Lickliter would be available because of the health issues that were reported. I think this is a great choice. He continues the style we now use, he knows the team, the team knows him, he knows the community, he can recruit, he has NBA connections just like Walter, he has proven success and experience with Butler. Lots of positives. Others may disagree, but considering the circumstances, this is great news for the Aces!
What a roller coaster ride this year! Too many ups, downs, and hopefully more ups from here on.
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Post by aceshigh on Jan 21, 2020 22:27:14 GMT -6
In 6 six seasons at Butler, 3 conference championships, 4 tournament wins, 4 NCAA trips, 2 sweet 16. Are you friggin kidding me. He recruited these guys. All last year I told anyone that would listen Walter was the pretty face TL is the brains. I could not be happier.... tomorrow a donation!!! The best hire we could have hoped for. I’m sure the team is excited based on what they have been through. The period of adjustment will now be much shorter. Tomorrow night we will see the team’s reaction to the change. Make no mistake, Drake will be a very tough opponent especially if Williams is unable to play. Hopefully we will see a renewed energy by everyone and see hard play on the floor like we saw last fall.
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Post by bballjunkie on Jan 21, 2020 22:28:37 GMT -6
Maybe this is the shot of adrenaline that DeAndre needs to urge him back to the court!
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Post by E-Villan on Jan 21, 2020 22:30:14 GMT -6
I said in another thread, probably the McCarty one, that a struggling P5 coach, who was a mid-major success, might just be the ticket. I was thinking of Brownell when I posted it, but Lickliter certainly fits the bill.
There have been several cases where a struggling P5 coach has came back to a mid, and found success again. Altman and Alford come to mind.
On the surface, he looks stronger than the last 3 hires.
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Post by ad1770 on Jan 21, 2020 22:30:28 GMT -6
If Lick can get Hall down on the low block instead of hanging out at the three line, we might be ok.
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Post by E-Villan on Jan 21, 2020 22:34:10 GMT -6
We see what young and hungry got us, this is a safe, cheap and logical hire. I bet we don’t have a lot of money to pull from, so it may have simply came down to finances. I was told last year from a knowledgeable insider that money was absolutely no problem. I would hope McCarty is leaving with nothing. McCarty was mid-pack in the league, with performance bonuses that could have kicked him well above the mid-6 figures. Lickliter may or may not have the same base, but I would assume he has the same performance opportunities.
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Post by Ace78 on Jan 21, 2020 22:35:57 GMT -6
I respectfully disagree. It is the best choice UE could make, given the disastrous circumstances the former coach put this team in.
This isn't Lickliter's first rodeo. He knows this team and he knows what it takes. I TRUST this coach.
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Post by COUTEAU on Jan 21, 2020 22:45:04 GMT -6
My September prediction of 21-11 (11-7) #3 seed @ rent-a-car, is still in the hunt. It's a new day in River City. Six game win streak, starts tomorrow night!
go aces
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Post by 83Ace on Jan 21, 2020 22:51:21 GMT -6
My first reaction was shock that the announcement came so quickly. And I was expecting/hoping for a young up-and-coming coach. But we don’t know everything. Spencer, Pres P and Lickliter have no doubt been discussing the issues we have raised over the past few days (or longer) - style of play, relationship to current players, recruiting, marketing the program, potential length of tenure, etc. This is not a typical situation. Given the spiraling state of things, making the hire now may have made the most sense. You may disagree with the decision, but it is a solid hire and far from ridiculous.
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Post by E-Villan on Jan 21, 2020 22:54:47 GMT -6
My first reaction was shock that the announcement came so quickly. And I was expecting/hoping for a young up-and-coming coach. But we don’t know everything. Spencer, Pres P and Lickliter have no doubt been discussing the issues we have raised over the past few days (or longer) - style of play, relationship to current players, recruiting, marketing the program, potential length of tenure, etc. This is not a typical situation. Given the spiraling state of things, making the hire now may have made the most sense. You may disagree with the decision, but it is a solid hire and far from ridiculous. I guess we will have to wait and see how it works out. I agree 83, I have a feeling that Pres P had his mind made up from the beginning that McCarty wasn't coming back. I now think some of the delay was actually negotiating with Lickliter and making sure they had the plan in place before announcing his termination. As much as we all discussed all of the scenarios, none of us had this pegged.
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Post by evilleways on Jan 21, 2020 23:00:09 GMT -6
My first reaction was shock that the announcement came so quickly. And I was expecting/hoping for a young up-and-coming coach. But we don’t know everything. Spencer, Pres P and Lickliter have no doubt been discussing the issues we have raised over the past few days (or longer) - style of play, relationship to current players, recruiting, marketing the program, potential length of tenure, etc. This is not a typical situation. Given the spiraling state of things, making the hire now may have made the most sense. You may disagree with the decision, but it is a solid hire and far from ridiculous. I'll support the new coach, but I stand by the fact that no program has ever given a coach who wasn't on the current staff a multi-year deal in January. The Powers That Be panicked because they wanted to get rid of all the uncertainty, pure and simple. Maybe the end result will be good, maybe it won't, but the decision-making process itself was awfully amateurish.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2020 23:07:28 GMT -6
This is a solid hire for many reasons. He is a proven winner and great basketball background. Knows this team well and will have legit shot at retaining Aces recruits. This is a great and welcome "break" for Aces basketball. WELCOME COACH LICKLITER
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2020 23:09:40 GMT -6
This is a solid hire for many reasons. He is a proven winner and great basketball background. Knows this team well and will have legit shot at retaining Aces recruits. This is a great and welcome "break" for Aces basketball. WELCOME COACH LICKLITER
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Post by 83Ace on Jan 21, 2020 23:23:33 GMT -6
My first reaction was shock that the announcement came so quickly. And I was expecting/hoping for a young up-and-coming coach. But we don’t know everything. Spencer, Pres P and Lickliter have no doubt been discussing the issues we have raised over the past few days (or longer) - style of play, relationship to current players, recruiting, marketing the program, potential length of tenure, etc. This is not a typical situation. Given the spiraling state of things, making the hire now may have made the most sense. You may disagree with the decision, but it is a solid hire and far from ridiculous. I'll support the new coach, but I stand by the fact that no program has ever given a coach who wasn't on the current staff a multi-year deal in January. The Powers That Be panicked because they wanted to get rid of all the uncertainty, pure and simple. Maybe the end result will be good, maybe it won't, but the decision-making process itself was awfully amateurish. You may be right about mid-season hires, but there is not a huge sample size of coaches fired mid-season. Because he was here last year and familiar with the players and the program, this was similar to hiring somebody currently on the staff.
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Post by Purp on Jan 21, 2020 23:24:48 GMT -6
My first reaction was shock that the announcement came so quickly. And I was expecting/hoping for a young up-and-coming coach. But we don’t know everything. Spencer, Pres P and Lickliter have no doubt been discussing the issues we have raised over the past few days (or longer) - style of play, relationship to current players, recruiting, marketing the program, potential length of tenure, etc. This is not a typical situation. Given the spiraling state of things, making the hire now may have made the most sense. You may disagree with the decision, but it is a solid hire and far from ridiculous. I'll support the new coach, but I stand by the fact that no program has ever given a coach who wasn't on the current staff a multi-year deal in January. The Powers That Be panicked because they wanted to get rid of all the uncertainty, pure and simple. Maybe the end result will be good, maybe it won't, but the decision-making process itself was awfully amateurish. How much do you know about the decision-making process here? Anything? Considering the current circumstances of the program, it seems wise to hire a steady hand who's had a lot of success at another mid major school from Indiana. Especially when he has deep connections with the team already.
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