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Post by acescott on Dec 20, 2021 16:08:32 GMT -6
Great research everyone! I had done some investigating a few years back by looking through old UE yearbooks, intrigued by the original gym (thinking I've seen a photo where it appeared right behind administration building?) and believing they went from there to Agoga to the Armory. Didn't catch the time at the coliseum. I even made a sketch collaging together the 5 arenas they have played in, but sounds like it's 6. On a side note I think the armory or part thereof would make a great UE Athletics Hall of Fame exhibit. First donor to contribute a million gets naming rights..
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Post by E-Villan on Dec 20, 2021 16:52:28 GMT -6
Great research everyone! I had done some investigating a few years back by looking through old UE yearbooks, intrigued by the original gym (thinking I've seen a photo where it appeared right behind administration building?) and believing they went from there to Agoga to the Armory. Didn't catch the time at the coliseum. I even made a sketch collaging together the 5 arenas they have played in, but sounds like it's 6. On a side note I think the armory or part thereof would make a great UE Athletics Hall of Fame exhibit. First donor to contribute a million gets naming rights.. If you did a sketch of the 6 gyms that was suitable for framing, I would be interested in purchasing one. I also would think the bookstore would have an interest in those as well. It might help Spencer learn that we actually do have a history worth preserving and maintaining at a higher level than currently.
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Post by acescott on Dec 20, 2021 17:56:40 GMT -6
Great research everyone! I had done some investigating a few years back by looking through old UE yearbooks, intrigued by the original gym (thinking I've seen a photo where it appeared right behind administration building?) and believing they went from there to Agoga to the Armory. Didn't catch the time at the coliseum. I even made a sketch collaging together the 5 arenas they have played in, but sounds like it's 6. On a side note I think the armory or part thereof would make a great UE Athletics Hall of Fame exhibit. First donor to contribute a million gets naming rights.. If you did a sketch of the 6 gyms that was suitable for framing, I would be interested in purchasing one. I also would think the bookstore would have an interest in those as well. It might help Spencer learn that we actually do have a history worth preserving and maintaining at a higher level than currently. I might have to work on that..at the time I sent the sketch to Lance Wilkerson and he seemed to like it. It was the hundred year anniversary of aces basketball that gave me the idea. I wonder if Mccutchan played in the coliseum, he was born in 1912...
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Post by acescott on Dec 20, 2021 19:47:31 GMT -6
Thought I might have something here from the Coliseum, but like the caption says it's a road game at Western Michigan in 1937... read the captions if they're legible enough. Let's just say an informal writing style!
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Post by gaace on Dec 21, 2021 2:23:11 GMT -6
<button disabled="" class="c-attachment-insert--linked o-btn--sm">Attachment Deleted</button><button disabled="" class="c-attachment-insert--linked o-btn--sm">Attachment Deleted</button> Thought I might have something here from the Coliseum, but like the caption says it's a road game at Western Michigan in 1937... read the captions if they're legible enough. Let's just say an informal writing style! From the yearbook caption: "We don't know who is supposed to be the captain of the 1936-37 Purple Ace basketeers...no one will tell us...no one knows, but we have to fill up space.'' Sounds like the UE athletic department over 80 years later. Not providing information about the men's basketball program that other teams would announce such as suspensions, player availability, injuries, etc.
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Post by gaace on Dec 21, 2021 3:13:53 GMT -6
Thanks everyone for all the research and input on this topic. According to old issues of the Crescent, the Aces still played at the Agoga Tabernacle in 1934-35 and opened 1935-36 in the Coliseum.
From the Dec. 6, 1935 edition of the Crescent, it was reported "The 1936 model Aces will open their hardwood season at 8:15 P.M. Monday, Dec. 9 on the Coliseum court against Oakland City. Four thousand tickets for the game have been distributed to advertise the season." Apparently it was known that all of the 4,000 people that were given tickets wouldn't attend because the Dec. 13, 1935 Crescent it says, "Before a capacity crowd of 3,000 fans the College Aces inaugurated their 1935-36 hardwood campaign by handily disposing the Sturdy Oaks of Oakland City College 31-24, Monday night at the Coliseum, the new headquarters of the Purple." If the Aces current removable court from the Ford Center fits, it would be a nice retro experience to put it in the Coliseum for a "throwback" game against Oakland City. Only 3,213 attended the last Aces vs. Oaks game on 12/02/2017.
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Post by acescott on Dec 21, 2021 8:34:57 GMT -6
Love the idea of a coliseum throwback game!
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Post by acecard on Dec 21, 2021 11:15:12 GMT -6
Thanks everyone for all the research and input on this topic. According to old issues of the Crescent, the Aces still played at the Agoga Tabernacle in 1934-35 and opened 1935-36 in the Coliseum. From the Dec. 6, 1935 edition of the Crescent, it was reported "The 1936 model Aces will open their hardwood season at 8:15 P.M. Monday, Dec. 9 on the Coliseum court against Oakland City. Four thousand tickets for the game have been distributed to advertise the season." Apparently it was known that all of the 4,000 people that were given tickets wouldn't attend because the Dec. 13, 1935 Crescent it says, "Before a capacity crowd of 3,000 fans the College Aces inaugurated their 1935-36 hardwood campaign by handily disposing the Sturdy Oaks of Oakland City College 31-24, Monday night at the Coliseum, the new headquarters of the Purple." If the Aces current removable court from the Ford Center fits, it would be a nice retro experience to put it in the Coliseum for a "throwback" game against Oakland City. Only 3,213 attended the last Aces vs. Oaks game on 12/02/2017. How could they have been so stupid as to start that game at 8:15 PM? Didn't they know that they should start them at 6:00 PM.
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Post by E-Villan on Dec 21, 2021 15:25:46 GMT -6
Thanks everyone for all the research and input on this topic. According to old issues of the Crescent, the Aces still played at the Agoga Tabernacle in 1934-35 and opened 1935-36 in the Coliseum. From the Dec. 6, 1935 edition of the Crescent, it was reported "The 1936 model Aces will open their hardwood season at 8:15 P.M. Monday, Dec. 9 on the Coliseum court against Oakland City. Four thousand tickets for the game have been distributed to advertise the season." Apparently it was known that all of the 4,000 people that were given tickets wouldn't attend because the Dec. 13, 1935 Crescent it says, "Before a capacity crowd of 3,000 fans the College Aces inaugurated their 1935-36 hardwood campaign by handily disposing the Sturdy Oaks of Oakland City College 31-24, Monday night at the Coliseum, the new headquarters of the Purple." If the Aces current removable court from the Ford Center fits, it would be a nice retro experience to put it in the Coliseum for a "throwback" game against Oakland City. Only 3,213 attended the last Aces vs. Oaks game on 12/02/2017. How could they have been so stupid as to start that game at 8:15 PM? Didn't they know that they should start them at 6:00 PM. That was my first thought as well. Games started 2 hours and 15 minutes later in 1935. If someone doesn't get their head out of their rears in the AD's office, all of our games will end up being "throwback" games at the Coliseum.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2021 19:43:58 GMT -6
Correction, at least 4 seasons. From the Evansville Courier 1-22-39 <button disabled="" class="c-attachment-insert--linked o-btn--sm">Attachment Deleted</button> I kind of assumed they moved into the Armory in the 1937 season and never considered looking for them elsewhere after that date. Of course, they would have played where the court was available. I suspect the Armory was in big demand most of the time.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2021 19:55:19 GMT -6
Thought I might have something here from the Coliseum, but like the caption says it's a road game at Western Michigan in 1937... read the captions if they're legible enough. Let's just say an informal writing style! Caption writer had a lot of fun with that copy block. I did find the game story and box on that game.
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Post by austinace on Dec 21, 2021 22:02:51 GMT -6
Looks like in 1937 that four fouls got you "banished".
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Post by gaace on Dec 21, 2021 22:21:18 GMT -6
Looks like in 1937 that four fouls got you "banished". That was the rule until 1944-45 when the foul limit was increased to 5. Beginning in 1942-43, "banished" players were eligible to play in OT. A 5th foul would bring further banishment. Haven't found anything that says if players could come back if there were additional overtime periods.
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Post by austinace on Dec 21, 2021 22:36:30 GMT -6
Looks like in 1937 that four fouls got you "banished". That was the rule until 1944-45 when the foul limit was increased to 5. Beginning in 1942-43, "banished" players were eligible to play in OT. A 5th foul would bring further banishment. Haven't found anything that says if players could come back if there were additional overtime periods. Very interesting. Thanks for sharing. That would be an interesting rule to bring back - where "banished" players could play again at the beginning of the first OT.
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Post by E-Villan on Dec 21, 2021 22:53:05 GMT -6
It's a shame Bailey got banished, because, according to the yearbook post, Bailey was "Master of Goalarie"
I think that is our problem now, we don't have the designated "Master of Goalarie"
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