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Post by aceloverlarry on Apr 22, 2024 15:55:07 GMT -6
Ben’s gone. Time to move on. He’s visiting Villanova, Louisville, and Illinois this week. We simply can’t compete with those programs. That seems like a pretty simplistic giving up excuse. I am not saying he is coming back or even should, but to simply dismiss us as not being able to compete sounds like a short-change on the program. Avila easily could have gone on to something bigger than SLU, possibly Swope as well. Coach relationships, as well as family, school, etc can overcome financial obstacles. SLU also has 10x (or more) NIL money than we do. The coach relationship wasn’t going to cut it if it was $80-100k to stay in Terre Haute, but he’s probably getting 4x that in STL. We’re simply not organized well enough NIL wise to compete to keep Ben here. It’s just the sad reality. Until we have a stronger NIL collective we stand no chance, and even then, it’s going to be hard to hang onto guys as talented as Ben. Raglands farewell statement to Ben read like they knew they have no chance to retain him, and everyone I’ve talked to close to the program has echoed those sentiments since then. I’m fairly positive the staff has moved on and re-recruiting him isn’t something being considered as a possibility. Best of luck to him wherever he ends up. I personally hope he just goes straight to the GLeague so we can say we helped a guy go from NAIA to the GLeague, but I’ve got a feeling he’ll transfer to a P6 program.
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Post by evilleintentions on Apr 22, 2024 16:03:01 GMT -6
That seems like a pretty simplistic giving up excuse. I am not saying he is coming back or even should, but to simply dismiss us as not being able to compete sounds like a short-change on the program. Avila easily could have gone on to something bigger than SLU, possibly Swope as well. Coach relationships, as well as family, school, etc can overcome financial obstacles. SLU also has 10x (or more) NIL money than we do. The coach relationship wasn’t going to cut it if it was $80-100k to stay in Terre Haute, but he’s probably getting 4x that in STL. We’re simply not organized well enough NIL wise to compete to keep Ben here. It’s just the sad reality. Until we have a stronger NIL collective we stand no chance, and even then, it’s going to be hard to hang onto guys as talented as Ben. Raglands farewell statement to Ben read like they knew they have no chance to retain him, and everyone I’ve talked to close to the program has echoed those sentiments since then. I’m fairly positive the staff has moved on and re-recruiting him isn’t something being considered as a possibility. Best of luck to him wherever he ends up. I personally hope he just goes straight to the GLeague so we can say we helped a guy go from NAIA to the GLeague, but I’ve got a feeling he’ll transfer to a P6 program. 🤔🤔 You are claiming Swope will get 4 times more than 80-100k at St. Louis? That’s ridiculous.
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Post by aceloverlarry on Apr 22, 2024 16:14:58 GMT -6
SLU also has 10x (or more) NIL money than we do. The coach relationship wasn’t going to cut it if it was $80-100k to stay in Terre Haute, but he’s probably getting 4x that in STL. We’re simply not organized well enough NIL wise to compete to keep Ben here. It’s just the sad reality. Until we have a stronger NIL collective we stand no chance, and even then, it’s going to be hard to hang onto guys as talented as Ben. Raglands farewell statement to Ben read like they knew they have no chance to retain him, and everyone I’ve talked to close to the program has echoed those sentiments since then. I’m fairly positive the staff has moved on and re-recruiting him isn’t something being considered as a possibility. Best of luck to him wherever he ends up. I personally hope he just goes straight to the GLeague so we can say we helped a guy go from NAIA to the GLeague, but I’ve got a feeling he’ll transfer to a P6 program. 🤔🤔 You are claiming Swope will get 4 times more than 80-100k at St. Louis? That’s ridiculous. I said nothing about Swope. But yes, Avila is likely making 300-400k minimum. Jayson Kent and Julian Larry are supposedly getting $500k each to go to Texas. Avila is just as valuable, if not more. I’m not sure what Swope is getting to go to SLU, but it’s definitely 6 figures. His injury scared off some P6 teams, but I’m sure he’s still getting a large sum of money to go to SLU. SLUs got big boosters that want to win and they’re going to give Schertz the NIL money to compete for guys like this.
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Post by Ace78 on Apr 22, 2024 18:40:00 GMT -6
Humrichous visiting Louisville ... photo number 3 ...
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Post by bballjunkie on Apr 22, 2024 18:57:54 GMT -6
Hope the money is good at Louisville because that program is a dumpster fire. He and that team will be obliterated by ACC teams.
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Post by aceloverlarry on Apr 22, 2024 19:08:37 GMT -6
Hope the money is good at Louisville because that program is a dumpster fire. He and that team will be obliterated by ACC teams. I like their new coach. I think they will be competing sooner rather than later. No reason for Louisville to ever be as bad as they were under Kenny Payne. They might not be a tournament team next year, but they should still be close to .500 overall and win more ACC games in year one than Kenny Payne did in two years. That said, I’d like to see him go to Illinois personally. The money will be good and he should be a good fit for their scheme. They might not be as good as last year, but they’ll compete near the top of the B1G.
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Post by evilleintentions on Apr 22, 2024 21:05:16 GMT -6
🤔🤔 You are claiming Swope will get 4 times more than 80-100k at St. Louis? That’s ridiculous. I said nothing about Swope. But yes, Avila is likely making 300-400k minimum. Jayson Kent and Julian Larry are supposedly getting $500k each to go to Texas. Avila is just as valuable, if not more. I’m not sure what Swope is getting to go to SLU, but it’s definitely 6 figures. His injury scared off some P6 teams, but I’m sure he’s still getting a large sum of money to go to SLU. SLUs got big boosters that want to win and they’re going to give Schertz the NIL money to compete for guys like this. That is completely false information. Who told you that the Biden White House?
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Post by aceloverlarry on Apr 22, 2024 21:31:02 GMT -6
I said nothing about Swope. But yes, Avila is likely making 300-400k minimum. Jayson Kent and Julian Larry are supposedly getting $500k each to go to Texas. Avila is just as valuable, if not more. I’m not sure what Swope is getting to go to SLU, but it’s definitely 6 figures. His injury scared off some P6 teams, but I’m sure he’s still getting a large sum of money to go to SLU. SLUs got big boosters that want to win and they’re going to give Schertz the NIL money to compete for guys like this. That is completely false information. Who told you that the Biden White House? Live in denial all you want, this is the new era of college sports. ISUs collective was trying to raise $100k to retain Robbie and they said at the time that they knew he could get significantly more than that on the open market but hopefully he would give Schertz a hometown discount. You really think it’s outlandish to think that SLU would have $300k ready for him? They also retained their top shooting guard that was being courted by UConn prior to Schertz hire. You really think national champion UConn isn’t offering $200k+ to their quality bench guys? Competitive P6 teams all have multi million dollar NIL funds on a yearly basis now. Cal said when he was hired that he got Tyson Chicken to commit to $5 million per year for him. That’s the going rate for a sweet 16 caliber roster these days. You really think it’s made up that Texas, a P5 program with boosters that have a history of spending big for all sports, would be offering $500k for a starter on their basketball team?
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Post by evilleintentions on Apr 22, 2024 21:40:27 GMT -6
If this is remotely true and I don’t believe it is, what an absolutely horrible ROI for a team that won’t even make the tournament. I have a good idea what’s important in life, and this ranks very low on that scale.
Also, I feel strongly this play Monopoly money will at some point dry up at a lot of places. UE will be fine. Stop chasing nonsense Larry.
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Post by aceloverlarry on Apr 22, 2024 21:56:22 GMT -6
If this is remotely true and I don’t believe it is, what an absolutely horrible ROI for a team that won’t even make the tournament. I have a good idea what’s important in life, and this ranks very low on that scale. Also, I feel strongly this play Monopoly money will at some point dry up at a lot of places. UE will be fine. Stop chasing nonsense Larry. It’s not nonsense. You’re living with your head in the sand if you really don’t believe power 5 teams are spending millions of dollars on NIL every year now. The moneys not drying up anytime soon either. Billionaire college boosters have been giving millions to their programs in hopes of seeing them win a national championship for years. Nothings changed besides their being a legal avenue to give it to players now. They didn’t care about the ROI when they were dumping multi millions into the facility upgrades races of the early 21st century and they don’t care about the ROI now. Do you think the booster that shelled out $10 million to buy out Travis Ford at SLU cares about the ROI on his buyout? You think it’s nonsense that that same guy might be willing to shell out an extra million dollars to put his new coach in a position to succeed immediately? If you’ve been following college sports and the behavior of boosters with too much money for the last 4 decades, none of this is nonsense. UE will be fine and there’s no reason we can’t be competitive in the MVC and compete with our peers on a yearly basis, but we’re also likely going to lose our All MVC players on a much more regular basis now. It’s just the way the sport works now. Luckily for every Ben Humrichous, there is 1-2 more Connor Turnbulls just looking for an opportunity to shine at a program like UE.
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Post by evilleintentions on Apr 22, 2024 23:04:22 GMT -6
Point taken. Then let’s not chase something we will never be. We can still be successful doing it our own way. Plenty of good college players out there. Roster construction and character can go a long way. Dan Hurley speaks about this very eloquently.
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Post by stlscooter on Apr 23, 2024 6:40:02 GMT -6
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Post by Atlanta Ace on Apr 23, 2024 7:05:48 GMT -6
LOL.
That's a great gif.
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Post by okie on Apr 23, 2024 7:13:55 GMT -6
Is anyone else having trouble getting work done because of constantly refreshing X and PAP? The suspense is killing me!! haha
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Post by E-Villan on Apr 23, 2024 7:18:42 GMT -6
Is anyone else having trouble getting work done because of constantly refreshing X and PAP? The suspense is killing me!! haha You mean I am not the only one?
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