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Mar 13, 2024 13:05:27 GMT -6
Post by ATP on Mar 13, 2024 13:05:27 GMT -6
Iowa got paid hand and fist in attendance alone. The season (2019-2020) before Clark arrived Iowa's women average attendance was 7100 per home game. Her freshman season was the Covid games with 310 people allowed in the arena. Sophomore season 8225, junior season 11150, and this season 15000. You make salient points. I guess the whole of the program is flush now and will be in the future as their recruiting just got real easy in a state where girls BB is hallowed anyhow.
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Mar 13, 2024 13:21:17 GMT -6
Post by ATP on Mar 13, 2024 13:21:17 GMT -6
Sort of like getting the government involved to make things better. 😆 Government at least makes rules to counterbalance the rules it forgot it made the last time it made rules to correct the problem. What will the market bear? I mean, a high school college-prep kid is allowed to get a job. Why can't some basketball player be paid? Years ago, my brother who played for a successful small high school in Indiana, said he learned to be quite cynical of the "boosters" in town who were paying money to somebody so they could sit in the bleachers on Friday nights, pretending to be important, watching kids play for free -- and being expected to win at all cost.
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Post by ibleedpurple on Mar 13, 2024 21:29:23 GMT -6
Sabin is spot on. We need a lot more high level coaches or soon to be ex coaches speaking up along this line for anything to change. Glad someone is listening. Maybe more will speak out because this thing is out of control.
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Mar 13, 2024 21:35:06 GMT -6
Post by ATP on Mar 13, 2024 21:35:06 GMT -6
Top coaches were complaining 3 years ago and the NCAA found it couldn't win a court fight because all it could offer was "integrity". Guess what? Calipari doesn't give two squats about integrity. This is not a matter of it being out of control. It's a matter of ships heading out into uncharted waters and being told the iceberg isn't all that big.
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Mar 19, 2024 19:46:46 GMT -6
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Post by aceloverlarry on Mar 19, 2024 19:46:46 GMT -6
ISU setting its sights high.
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Post by aces44 on Apr 12, 2024 9:33:50 GMT -6
NBC canceled their MLB coverage ESPN is cancelling theirs after 2024 3 regionals have filed BK and 12 more are on the brink
Wonder when the salaries will come back down to earth?
The same will happen with College Basketball unless they get real very fast
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Post by ATP on Apr 12, 2024 14:51:48 GMT -6
ISU setting its sights high. Subtracting the student body, are there actually 2,000 Sycamore fans who plan to subscribe for $25 a month and give up a Chipotles to secure a "quality" starting five? What if one of the "five" comes down with a sprained ankle? Or fouls out on a crappy hand-check foul. Better find another 200K just for somebody almost as good. What would suck is that this professional college team comes down to the last 8 seconds and Wes Washpun bounces one off the rim and the backflow 3-pointer sends the Sycs into the CBI where nobody notices if they win it.
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Apr 12, 2024 15:59:33 GMT -6
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Post by kentuckyace on Apr 12, 2024 15:59:33 GMT -6
The Kentucky AD was on KSR radio talking about hiring Mark Pope as the coach. KSR reported that two booster pledged $4M in NIL money after the hire. Barnhart confirmed they have over $4m already in their NIL portfolio. That is money that is separate from what guys going to Kentucky can get on top of that with direct deals.
An example of additional NIL money out there is a collectible company out of Nashville that tried to offer Antonio Reeves $100k for x number of signatures on memorabilia. Oddly enough all these offers were going thru Cal’s staff and it never got to Reeves. The dysfunction in his staff left money on the table for players.
I’m guessing there will be closer to $5-6m NIL portfolio to use before Kentucky is done. That is some life changing money to dole out.
I’m wondering when the balance shifts to where much more is spent on NIL than coach. Kentucky will pay Pope $5.5m and I think the NIL will be 1:1 ratio to coach salary. Curious to see if that ratio ends up being greater for players than coach.
The NIL ruling has changed the game forever and unlimited xfer portal is jet fuel on the fire.
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Apr 13, 2024 7:22:35 GMT -6
Post by ATP on Apr 13, 2024 7:22:35 GMT -6
The Kentucky AD was on KSR radio talking about hiring Mark Pope as the coach. KSR reported that two booster pledged $4M in NIL money after the hire. Barnhart confirmed they have over $4m already in their NIL portfolio. That is money that is separate from what guys going to Kentucky can get on top of that with direct deals. An example of additional NIL money out there is a collectible company out of Nashville that tried to offer Antonio Reeves $100k for x number of signatures on memorabilia. Oddly enough all these offers were going thru Cal’s staff and it never got to Reeves. The dysfunction in his staff left money on the table for players. I’m guessing there will be closer to $5-6m NIL portfolio to use before Kentucky is done. That is some life changing money to dole out. I’m wondering when the balance shifts to where much more is spent on NIL than coach. Kentucky will pay Pope $5.5m and I think the NIL will be 1:1 ratio to coach salary. Curious to see if that ratio ends up being greater for players than coach. The NIL ruling has changed the game forever and unlimited xfer portal is jet fuel on the fire. It is fairly clear from some of my comments that I don't fully understand how this works and probably won't find a good place to find that information, although I do know that NCAA has been told to GTFO and not bother trying to regulate it. If it is regulated, we will have (ahem) Congress involved and most of them are howling at the contrails of last week's eclipse -- or deciding which aggressive war machine is more favorable to draining the swamp. But I do know that a couple of years ago, some coach was irked that a booster was "NIL-ing" a player who wasn't even being recruited by this coach -- who didn't even really want him. So if the coaches have to set up a committee to dole out NIL money, it would seem that a whole bunch of people need to be in the same room if they want this done right. Handing out some dough to a kid who is tall, talented and inclined to do Walt McCarty tricks in the hallway -- bad look in the worst of times. I just wonder if, when somebody decides to make some rules on this, that there will always be some people who don't need no stinkin' rules and won't sign on. These athletes can pull the strings, I reckon. I always wanted government to get younger than people who are older than I am -- but ... OK.
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Apr 29, 2024 21:54:53 GMT -6
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Post by austinace on Apr 29, 2024 21:54:53 GMT -6
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Apr 30, 2024 7:42:18 GMT -6
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Post by aceshigh on Apr 30, 2024 7:42:18 GMT -6
So how does any of this affect a school like UE? Evansville like almost all the small colleges throughout the country are not awash with sports revenue filling their bank accounts. Where is the money to come from to revenue share with the athletes? Should all athletes pay their own way and compete with non athletes for academic scholarships or other ways to pay for school costs?
The gates to hell have been opened. Let’s see who walks through.
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Apr 30, 2024 11:44:40 GMT -6
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Post by evilleintentions on Apr 30, 2024 11:44:40 GMT -6
NBC canceled their MLB coverage ESPN is cancelling theirs after 2024 3 regionals have filed BK and 12 more are on the brink Wonder when the salaries will come back down to earth? The same will happen with College Basketball unless they get real very fast Don’t bite the hand that feeds you. Lots of folks are tuning out because of the ridiculousness of NIL. It’s a good ol boys club and we aren’t in it…….so stop supporting it.
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Apr 30, 2024 13:30:49 GMT -6
Post by ATP on Apr 30, 2024 13:30:49 GMT -6
NBC canceled their MLB coverage ESPN is cancelling theirs after 2024 3 regionals have filed BK and 12 more are on the brink Wonder when the salaries will come back down to earth? The same will happen with College Basketball unless they get real very fast Don’t bite the hand that feeds you. Lots of folks are tuning out because of the ridiculousness of NIL. It’s a good ol boys club and we aren’t in it…….so stop supporting it. Not supporting it would mean not watching it or being interested in it. I think there are alternatives. Eventually the conferences will get some kind of a grip on it. They have no choice, even if the quality of play suffers. The quality of play is basically going to be year-to-year anyhow. As well, I think the number of D1 programs is going to decline pretty significantly in the next three or four years.
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Apr 30, 2024 14:51:41 GMT -6
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Post by acescott on Apr 30, 2024 14:51:41 GMT -6
Don’t bite the hand that feeds you. Lots of folks are tuning out because of the ridiculousness of NIL. It’s a good ol boys club and we aren’t in it…….so stop supporting it. Not supporting it would mean not watching it or being interested in it. I think there are alternatives. Eventually the conferences will get some kind of a grip on it. They have no choice, even if the quality of play suffers. The quality of play is basically going to be year-to-year anyhow. As well, I think the number of D1 programs is going to decline pretty significantly in the next three or four years. At the very least, you would have to think fewer schools would be deciding to enter D1. Looks like 2 are coming in next year, West Georgia and Mercyhurst. I wonder how USI is feeling about their decision. Seems like they've been decimated by the portal, but maybe there's less NIL pressure in OVC basketball when many of the schools would prioritize football.
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Apr 30, 2024 15:59:33 GMT -6
Post by ATP on Apr 30, 2024 15:59:33 GMT -6
Not supporting it would mean not watching it or being interested in it. I think there are alternatives. Eventually the conferences will get some kind of a grip on it. They have no choice, even if the quality of play suffers. The quality of play is basically going to be year-to-year anyhow. As well, I think the number of D1 programs is going to decline pretty significantly in the next three or four years. At the very least, you would have to think fewer schools would be deciding to enter D1. Looks like 2 are coming in next year, West Georgia and Mercyhurst. I wonder how USI is feeling about their decision. Seems like they've been decimated by the portal, but maybe there's less NIL pressure in OVC basketball when many of the schools would prioritize football. D-1 is a bit of a way of getting a piece of the NCAA pie. But that's all it is for some programs. The MVC is one of the richer ones. The HBCU programs are starving outside the restaurant.
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